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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7861076.stm

    The Israeli defence ministry has concealed information about the extent of illegal settlement-building in the West Bank, a leading newspaper reports.

    A classified database of construction compiled by the ministry was leaked to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
    It suggests most construction took place without the right permits, and more than 30 settlements were built in part on land owned by Palestinians. Settlements are a contentious issue in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The defence ministry has not commented on the report, which appears to contradict Israel's official position that it does not requisition private land for settlements. The internationally-backed "road map" peace plan also calls on Israel to halt all settlement activity.

    Publication 'blocked'

    The database - compiled over about two years - was leaked to Haaretz by the Israeli human rights group Yesh Din. It focuses not only on some 100 unauthorised settler outposts, but also on about 120 settlements officially authorised since Israel captured the territory in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. An analysis of the data shows a big majority - about 75% - of construction in settlements was carried out without the right permit or in contravention of permits issued, Haaretz reported. In more than 30 settlements, buildings including schools, synagogues and police stations, had been built on private Palestinian land.

    The newspaper said Defence Minister Ehud Barak blocked publication of the data, arguing it could endanger state security or harm Israel's foreign relations. Yesh Din told the BBC the report showed that the Israeli government ignored its own distinction between settlements considered legal under Israeli law, and illegal outposts built on privately owned land. The group said it would use the information to help Palestinians sue Israel for damages.

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    The Haaretz article comes in the same week as the visit of the new US envoy to the Middle East, George Mitchell.
    In 2001 he released a report which called on Israel to freeze settlement building. Earlier this week Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert was quoted in another newspaper as saying he had offered in talks with the Palestinians to remove 60,000 settlers from the West Bank. Haaretz says the right-wing opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed not to be tied to any pledges to withdraw settlers.
    I will accept all apologies owed.

    It shows that the overwhelming majority of the settlements are illegal, even by Israeli law.
    The Israelis made no distinction between illegal and legal settlements.
    It shows that as many as 30 settlements are built upon privately owned Palestinian land.
    They actively hid this information so as to not to damage Israel's foreign relations or endanger state secuirity.


    So much is being made out of us not being able to trust the Palestinians, but can we trust the Israelis? Who promise, even the USA demands the settlement activity ends, the Israelis promise an end to the USA, yet they continue. Then conceal all evidence, lying about everything.
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    Apologies for what??

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    Seems like the Jews want to get rid of the Palastinians:hmmm:

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    Dahhh We didn't knew that!!

    Offcourse you can't get the religious indoctrination out of people.
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    Apologies for being called a liar all this time for claiming the settlements were illegal, and were being built on stolen Palestinian land.

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    Wow, that's a lot of stolen land.

    Israel seems to be a rather ungentlemanly nation.

    I <3 yesh din. Nice jewish boys. Well brought up.




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    Well I don't owe you, but I agree.
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    1..2..3..Till Israel fanboys march in, proclaiming that the Israelis rightfully own that land because of the Yom Kippur War or whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
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    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
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    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

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    No No, you are seeing this wrong, GOD Himself gave it to them...
    You can't deny GOD!!!



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    Geez, isrealies are taking advantage of the support of the US and other nations and thier 'right to the land'. i mean come on this is just out right STUPID they already get away with lots of bending the law ;but just outright defying it,and their allies, thinking they could keep it secret well... idiots
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPA35 View Post
    No No, you are seeing this wrong, GOD Himself gave it to them...
    You can't deny GOD!!!



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    God and a few hundred thousand Zionist militants to seal the deal.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    The Jewish Settler and the Suicide Bomber are almost the perfect personifications of everything wrong with semitic religions. A pox on all their houses.

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    Good. Another evidence why Israel need to be wiped off the map now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Good. Another evidence why Israel need to be wiped off the map now.
    Dude... no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Good. Another evidence why Israel need to be wiped off the map now.
    Interesting.

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    I agree with jankren. They want a homeland, carve out Germany the guys who really killed and holocosted the Jews. The Arab's weren't the ones putting them in camps. Take it out of the Pope's land for all I care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turkish Sultan View Post
    carve out Germany the guys who really killed and holocosted the Jews. The Arab's weren't the ones putting them in camps. Take it out of the Pope's land for all I care.
    Very true. It is the Germans and Euros that deserve death for the crimes of antisemitism - not Palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turkish Sultan View Post
    I agree with jankren. They want a homeland, carve out Germany the guys who really killed and holocosted the Jews. The Arab's weren't the ones putting them in camps. Take it out of the Pope's land for all I care.
    Is this means that Turks will give back the Northern Cyprus; Smyrna and Trebizond? You Know those Lands the Turks ilegaly took from Greeks and ocupy to this day? Will they go back to central Asia; Turkmenistan or What not?
    What about Hitler Friend and known nazi Mohammad Amin al-Husayni who just happend to be the Palestinian leader and mentor of Arafat?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco Borealis View Post
    Is this means that Turks will give back the Northern Cyprus; Smyrna and Trebizond? You Know those Lands the Turks ilegaly took from Greeks and ocupy to this day? Will they go back to central Asia; Turkmenistan or What not?
    What about Hitler Friend and known nazi Mohammad Amin al-Husayni who just happend to be the Palestinian leader and mentor of Arafat?
    how about not generalizing

    how about ottomen who lived on these lands thanks to the ottomen invasion

    how about you give me back my land where my great, great, great, great, great grand father owned lands and a huge castle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco Borealis View Post
    Is this means that Turks will give back the Northern Cyprus; Smyrna and Trebizond? You Know those Lands the Turks ilegaly took from Greeks and ocupy to this day? Will they go back to central Asia; Turkmenistan or What not?
    What about Hitler Friend and known nazi Mohammad Amin al-Husayni who just happend to be the Palestinian leader and mentor of Arafat?
    Why you asking me? I'm not a Turk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco Borealis View Post
    Is this means that Turks will give back the Northern Cyprus; Smyrna and Trebizond? You Know those Lands the Turks ilegaly took from Greeks and ocupy to this day? Will they go back to central Asia; Turkmenistan or What not?
    What about Hitler Friend and known nazi Mohammad Amin al-Husayni who just happend to be the Palestinian leader and mentor of Arafat?

    He's muslim and not arian so he can't be a real nazi..
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