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    Default A question we all must answer ourselves:

    Why does the media, constantly, constantly focus on White racism, on the rare occurrence where it rears its head, and not the racism amongst minority communities against Whites, which are vastly greater?

    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9bC9pd8b86E&NR=1

    This is just one statistic. This is just one thing in our society in North America [and indeed Europe, though the minorities causing the crimes are different], among many. There are many double standards, there are many out right discriminatory policies, such as affirmative action.

    Why does this happen? Why is there NOTHING mentioned on this? Why do we not stand up for ourselves?

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    It's simple, the plan was to decrease the civil liberties of a certain group and give that to another group. Not only is this evident in race issues, Scar Face, but we see this in almost all legislation today. Legislation that does not benefit the whole of citizens, but favors one group at anothers expense. As if it's all one big cluster- competition. Who can screw over one set of people the most to make others that much more successful? This is even evident in the stimulus thing that's up for vote right now in the Senate.

    Back on topic, affirmative action is one of the grossest violations of equality in this country. It's a policy that has been proven not to be effective at gaining more minorities jobs. The only thing that is effective is simply being the best man for the job. I think it's good enough that we have laws preventing companies not to discredit applicants and workers based on race, creed, or anything of that matter. The fact that we have a law that says you must have so many people of this race is already in direct violation of that law!

    It needs immediate repeal.
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    Great post.

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    DUDE HE'S THE FORMER GRAND WIZARD(wtf) OF THE KKK. HOW CAN THAT BE NON-BIASED INFORMATION?

    As white nationialistic as that is, the reason he said that is to stir up an image of the South and it's antebellum roots, and try to compel you to mistake racism with defending innocent white womenfolks of the evil blacks who live to prey on only them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OccamR View Post
    DUDE HE'S THE FORMER GRAND WIZARD(wtf) OF THE KKK. HOW CAN THAT BE NON-BIASED INFORMATION?

    As white nationialistic as that is, the reason he said that is to stir up an image of the South and it's antebellum roots, and try to compel you to mistake racism with defending innocent white womenfolks of the evil blacks who live to prey on only them.
    Forgive me if I mistake sarcasm for sincerity, because of the wording of the rest of your post, I was not entirely able to discern your meaning. The information is not biased, as the link is from the Government. I do not think that all the blacks who commit rapes are specifically doing it due to racism, thats kind of a stretch. However, any crime a White commits against a black [robbery, assault, threat, rape], is immediately taken as a hate crime. It is immediately jumped on by the media. If whites were treated fairly in America, blacks would be jumped on just as vigorously for their perceived hate crimes, or white crime against blacks would be as utterly ignored as black crimes against whites are. Theres no two ways around it.

    I suggest some of you check the previews, and if the topic interests you, buy the movie: A conversation about race. It is not a movie about White nationalism. Its an examination of what the term 'Racist' means in America, the now negative and double standards whites apply against themselves, and others apply against White people.

    It's...enlightening.
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    Wait, before this gets started what is White? Like White Mexicans or White Afghanis, or mixed European Canadians and Americans.
    In North America White is, essentially, someone of European ethnic descent. Depending on the person, this might not include a Spanish/Portuguese person. In the case of mixed, its basically a giant gray area. If the person looks white, people will perceive him as White, but really its up to the own individuals self image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Forgive me if I mistake sarcasm for sincerity, because of the wording of the rest of your post, I was not entirely able to discern your meaning. The information is not biased, as the link is from the Government. I do not think that all the blacks who commit rapes are specifically doing it due to racism, thats kind of a stretch. However, any crime a White commits against a black [robbery, assault, threat, rape], is immediately taken as a hate crime. It is immediately jumped on by the media.

    I suggest some of you check the previews, and if the topic interests you, buy the movie: A conversation about race. It is not a movie about White nationalism. Its an examination of what the term 'Racist' means in America, the now negative and double standards whites apply against themselves, and others apply against White people.

    It's...enlightening. In North America White is, essentially, someone of European ethnic descent. Depending on the person, this might not include a Spanish/Portuguese person. In the case of mixed, its basically a giant gray area. If the person looks white, people will perceive him as White, but really its up to the own individuals self image.
    Kind of a stretch?

    But for the others, it is only taken as a hate crime if it appears to be one i.e. a noose is put on a tree. Hell here in D.C. a crime from three white deaf guys and a black deaf guy against another black deaf guy was deemed racial as they wrote racial slurs all over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player989random View Post
    But for the others, it is only taken as a hate crime if it appears to be one i.e. a noose is put on a tree. Hell here in D.C. a crime from three white deaf guys and a black deaf guy against another black deaf guy was deemed racial as they wrote racial slurs all over him.
    That comment did not even begin to respond to affirmative action or media portrayals. I don't know where you live, perhaps there hate crimes are limited to when racial violence actually has relevance, this however, is not the norm for huge tracts of North America. On top of increasingly strict restrictions on freedom of speech, all these laws intent on stamping out hate, have been abused and contorted to apply to irrelevant situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player989random View Post
    Back when affirmative action was created it was a good thing, not really but it was great for us minorities as we got a free ride into school. Yet when it was created not many minorities were accepted into schools or jobs that they get now, but the law should change with the times and affirmative action should be removed.

    Your first question: The majority created it, it is not the minorities fault for exploiting it.

    Second: The only one who would report it would be a majority and it would seem as if they are just being *****ing about the minorities doing better then them.

    Third: There are more of us then there are of you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    That comment did not even begin to respond to affirmative action or media portrayals. I don't know where you live, perhaps there hate crimes are limited to when racial violence actually has relevance, this however, is not the norm for huge tracts of North America. On top of increasingly strict restrictions on freedom of speech, all these laws intent on stamping out hate, have been abused and contorted to apply to irrelevant situations.
    Already answered your AA question. And where is this huge tract of North America that you speak of?

    I do disagree with Social Services taking away the guys kids just cause he named him Adolf Hitler. Yeah the kid was doomed to being insulted but at least he wasn't being tortured.

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    So true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    This is just one statistic. This is just one thing in our society in North America [and indeed Europe, though the minorities causing the crimes are different], among many. There are many double standards, there are many out right discriminatory policies, such as affirmative action.

    Why does this happen? Why is there NOTHING mentioned on this? Why do we not stand up for ourselves?
    Back when affirmative action was created it was a good thing, not really but it was great for us minorities as we got a free ride into school. Yet when it was created not many minorities were accepted into schools or jobs that they get now, but the law should change with the times and affirmative action should be removed.

    Your first question: The majority created it, it is not the minorities fault for exploiting it.

    Second: The only one who would report it would be a majority and it would seem as if they are just being *****ing about the minorities doing better then them.

    Third: There are more of us then there are of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Why does the media, constantly, constantly focus on White racism, on the rare occurrence where it rears its head, and not the racism amongst minority communities against Whites, which are vastly greater?

    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9bC9pd8b86E&NR=1

    This is just one statistic. This is just one thing in our society in North America [and indeed Europe, though the minorities causing the crimes are different], among many. There are many double standards, there are many out right discriminatory policies, such as affirmative action.

    Why does this happen? Why is there NOTHING mentioned on this? Why do we not stand up for ourselves?
    Because THE MAN wills it.

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    Wait, before this gets started what is White? Like White Mexicans or White Afghanis, or mixed European Canadians and Americans.

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    To hammer it home: he is a former member of the KKK. Really, does that not bother anyone??

    I also don't believe that that can be used as a case for white superiority.
    I don't want to get into an argument, but the only reason for the behavior of African-Americans has been for the slow Genocide that happened during slavery between the 1700's and 1865, stumping their growth as a people for over 20 generations. Even when they gained freedom, they were still stunted by lack of rights and economic equality. Only in the 1960s did they start to feel free, yet even then they were still tied down economically, forcing the government to create affirmative action to deal with racism in the workplace, so that blacks would be on an equal footing. Yet still, the amount of blacks below the poverty line in immeasurable compared to whites. Do you really think, if as many blacks were as properous as whites are, there would be that many rapes. Rapes are no doubt more prevelant in poorer regions, which are dominated by blacks. I agree that there probably are more white rapes but you must understand, that is in no way caused by the genes of the individual, rather the socioeconomic conditions in which they live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OccamR View Post
    To hammer it home: he is a former member of the KKK. Really, does that not bother anyone??
    Is it relevant to statistics created by the Government? The interpretation of the facts are up to the listener. Please do not try to avoid the entire topic. Hell, if you knew anything about the man, you would know he is not at all, the typical KKK member.
    Quote Originally Posted by OccamR View Post
    I also don't believe that that can be used as a case for white superiority.
    Where the hell did that come from?

    This is just another typical example of double standards that too many people apply. Blacks who are overly concerned about their own kind are, generally, accepted. Perhaps not embraced, but certainly the issues they bring up are not outright ignored simply by the virtue of who it comes from. There are no massive illogical leaps as Occamar just made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scar Face View Post
    Is it relevant to statistics created by the Government? The interpretation of the facts are up to the listener. Please do not try to avoid the entire topic. Hell, if you knew anything about the man, you would know he is not at all, the typical KKK member. Where the hell did that come from?

    This is just another typical example of double standards that too many people apply. Blacks who are overly concerned about their own kind are, generally, accepted. Perhaps not embraced, but certainly the issues they bring up are not outright ignored simply by the virtue of who it comes from. There are no massive illogical leaps as Occamar just made.
    Here, read my updated post:

    I don't want to get into an argument, but the only reason for the behavior of African-Americans has been for the slow Genocide that happened during slavery between the 1700's and 1865, stumping their growth as a people for over 20 generations. Even when they gained freedom, they were still stunted by lack of rights and economic equality. Only in the 1960s did they start to feel free, yet even then they were still tied down economically, forcing the government to create affirmative action to deal with racism in the workplace, so that blacks would be on an equal footing. Yet still, the amount of blacks below the poverty line in immeasurable compared to whites. Do you really think, if as many blacks were as properous as whites are, there would be that many rapes. Rapes are no doubt more prevelant in poorer regions, which are dominated by blacks. I agree that there probably are more white rapes but you must understand, that is in no way caused by the genes of the individual, rather the socioeconomic conditions in which they live.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OccamR View Post
    Here, read my updated post:

    I don't want to get into an argument, but the only reason for the behavior of African-Americans has been for the slow Genocide that happened during slavery between the 1700's and 1865, stumping their growth as a people for over 20 generations. Even when they gained freedom, they were still stunted by lack of rights and economic equality. Only in the 1960s did they start to feel free, yet even then they were still tied down economically, forcing the government to create affirmative action to deal with racism in the workplace, so that blacks would be on an equal footing. Yet still, the amount of blacks below the poverty line in immeasurable compared to whites.
    Look, if the goal was to achieve equality in North American society, there would not be affirmative action for a race. There would be affirmative action for the poor. Attempts would be made to increase social mobility as a whole, as there is an immeasurable amount of poor whites, Asians, Indians, and so on. This is not a process meant to help black people, at least not anymore. It is a process that purely damages whites who have worked hard, and deserve schools and a good education. It punishes whites for being whites, it is a form of social engineering, akin to all White schools, and other forms used in the past to limit black mobility. It is the same racial politics we have always had, its simply been turned the other way around. Do you know why it is more dangerous? Because no one even ****ing acknowledges it. At least in the past people realized Whites were being cruel to blacks.

    People still have it in their head that all of North America is working its best to keep minorities down and Whites up, like its one giant White conspiracy to keep em' poor. That couldn't be farther from the truth. This mentality enforces guilt and shame on Whites growing up, and limits the success of already poor whites, and whites in the middle class.
    Quote Originally Posted by OccamR View Post
    Do you really think, if as many blacks were as properous as whites are, there would be that many rapes. Rapes are no doubt more prevalent in poorer regions, which are dominated by blacks. I agree that there probably are more white rapes but you must understand,
    Being poor does not make you rape. I agree, poorer societies do have more criminality. It's not because there poor though, you are looking at it the wrong way. No one wakes up in the morning and says "gee, I work at wal mart, better go rape and beat a women to my hearts content". Thats ridiculous. The poor, regardless of race, in America, have a culture of violence, drug abuse, and racism. Blacks hate whites, Hispanics hate blacks...etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by OccamR View Post
    that is in no way caused by the genes of the individual, rather the socioeconomic conditions in which they live.
    Where did I say or imply this? To get it out of the way, I don't believe in any god damn racial theories. I am White nationalistic, if you want to use that term. I.e: I am proud of my heritage and want to look out for other White people. I don't think I'm better because im White, and I don't want ill on other people. This thread was to bring up startlingly statistics that are ignored. Weather or not you interpret these statistics as evidence of black racism against Whites, you are forced to acknowledge the lack of media attention to the criminality prevalent in ghetto's. The entire problem is ignored, and when it is not, the entire problem is miss interpreted. How are we ever to see ACTUAL progress?

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    apparently not racists
    according to exarch I am like
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    sure, the way fred phelps finds christianity too optimistic?

    Simple truths
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    btw having a sig telling people not to report you is hilarious.

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    It sounds to me like Scar Face is a bit racist, but that's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empi Rapper View Post
    It sounds to me like Scar Face is a bit racist, but that's just my opinion.
    Lol, unfortunately your opinion is actually right.


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    all I have to say that if your feeling oppressed because of your race

    stand up for yourself and stop being a baby.

    who gives a if people judge you because you are white, welcome to the ing human race we judge things for reasons and dumb ideals; this is the game, learn to play it or check the out.

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