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    Default Way to obtain Chivalry?

    As long as I've been playing this game I've always had a problem getting Chivalry, is there some simple easy way to get it? I seem to get dread on almost ever General/Family Member I obtain.
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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    The best way I've been able to find is to park the leader in a city on low tax. This tends to grow my chivalry the fastest and most reliably.

    Other ways that will gain chivalry:
    Join a Crusade (that ends in victory)
    Release a large amount of prisoners (but I don't know the requirement)
    Occupy cities instead of sacking/exterminating them
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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    This isn't a question about a submod. Moving thread to the main forum

    I think you can also get chivalry by ending battles when you first get the victory, rather than continuing and hunting down the fleeing enemy to capture them.

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    try to limit usage of assasins ( and perhaps spies )
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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    Alright, thanks for the suggestions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus View Post
    This isn't a question about a submod. Moving thread to the main forum

    I think you can also get chivalry by ending battles when you first get the victory, rather than continuing and hunting down the fleeing enemy to capture them.
    Oops, .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus View Post
    This isn't a question about a submod. Moving thread to the main forum

    I think you can also get chivalry by ending battles when you first get the victory, rather than continuing and hunting down the fleeing enemy to capture them.

    Burn them, Slaughter them, mow them down. Be dreadful in annihilation or yes, Chivalrous in potential Defeat and Disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mega Tortas View Post
    Burn them, Slaughter them, mow them down. Be dreadful in annihilation or yes, Chivalrous in potential Defeat and Disaster.
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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    The only reliable way for chivalry is to jihad/crusade. Which cripples Orthodox factions chivalry-wise and angers me every time I play them...

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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    -Have "low" taxes when the general is governing a settlement.
    -End battle as soon as the option is given.
    -Do not use spies or assassins (This only affects the faction leader though.)
    -Fight battles with the odds in the enemy's favour.
    -Participate in crusades and jihads.
    -Release prisoners, (Ransom is neutral and does not give Chivalry or Dread, so it can be used to stay on the safe side.)
    -Occupy settlements, sacking is OK with big price settlements, but never exterminate.
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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    With respect to gaining chivalry, I recently stumbled upon an "exploit" that will give it to you very quickly. I'm not condoning this, but will share it with those who are interested. Read the spoiler at your own risk....

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    For any faction that crusades or jihads, if you join your general to a crusade, remove him, join him, repeat, repeat, repeat, your general will soon gain 4 or 5 points in chivalry, and be given the title of "the saint."

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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    I wonder if it's possible to mod Dread to give +growth bonus in settlements. It would allow Orthodox to bump at least one of their castles by making their king a dready guy via assassins...

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    Quote Originally Posted by delra View Post
    I wonder if it's possible to mod Dread to give +growth bonus in settlements. It would allow Orthodox to bump at least one of their castles by making their king a dready guy via assassins...
    Pretty sure the effects of characteristics like dread/chivalry/piety are hardcoded. You could though I guess mod the traits that give dread to include a growth component, but it would also give the boost to the dread of non-orthodox factions too. Perhaps a simpler way would be to give non-catholic factions another way of gaining chivalry via traits? :hmmm:

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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    Having your governors build churches, better said, major religious buildings also adds to his chivalry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belphegor View Post
    Having your governors build churches, better said, major religious buildings also adds to his chivalry.
    Actually building it or having it in the city?

    what do you mean by major religious buildings? cathedrals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor VI View Post
    Actually building it or having it in the city?

    what do you mean by major religious buildings? cathedrals?
    Building it, having your governor present during the whole duration of it's building time, to the end. I've noticed that I generaly I get chivalry after building churches, but there is some percentual chance - the bigger the church, the bigger the chance.

    Not just catherdrals, start from small churches, for me it's a sure way of getting the trait fair in rule - which increases over time. And be sure to keep your taxes low as well.

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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Belphegor View Post
    Having your governors build churches, better said, major religious buildings also adds to his chivalry.
    this works in vanilla game. building churches in SS 6.1 does not seem to add anything to chivalry...

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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    -Release Prisoners
    -Occupy Settlements
    -Join Crusades / Jihads
    -Sit back, put a settlement on Low Taxes and build

    Quote Originally Posted by marceror View Post
    With respect to gaining chivalry, I recently stumbled upon an "exploit" that will give it to you very quickly. I'm not condoning this, but will share it with those who are interested. Read the spoiler at your own risk....

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    For any faction that crusades or jihads, if you join your general to a crusade, remove him, join him, repeat, repeat, repeat, your general will soon gain 4 or 5 points in chivalry, and be given the title of "the saint."
    I'm sure this doesn't work. You can lose chivalry by leaving a Crusade just as you can gain it by joining one.
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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Musthavename View Post
    -Release Prisoners
    -Occupy Settlements
    -Join Crusades / Jihads
    -Sit back, put a settlement on Low Taxes and build



    I'm sure this doesn't work. You can lose chivalry by leaving a Crusade just as you can gain it by joining one.
    Be sure if you'd like, but when I discovered it, to my shock, I tested on 3 generals with identical results (and loaded from a previous save immediately after). So, I'm sure that it does.

    I don't use some of the installation add-on options (e.g real recruitment) so maybe this works differently with some of those installed....

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    Another good way to build chivalry is using a single general and nothing else to clear your regions of Rebels. Only the small groups of 2-4 units though obviously or you risk losing the general.

    Just charge , withdraw , charge untill they are all dead. The bonus of this is not only do u get Chilvary but you also get a 3 gold chevron general and tons of +1 and +2 hp traits.

    I had a general pretty much turn into a god doing this , he had 6hp.

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    Default Re: Way to obtain Chivalry?

    Hello,

    what is ment by not using spies? Does chivalry decrease only by using them for enemy towns and armys or even when they are just used to clear the shadows?

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