MONGOLIANS WHAT????

[StalkAndStrike]

Okay, so Im playing as truky, my empire is pretty huge, Im making 19 grand a turn, but I have a LITTLE PROBLEM! Now I have been keen to fight off the mongol invasion, to experience it for myself, and sure enough, here they come! I have killed off their entire first wave, but to my suprise, a second, than THIRD wave have appeared, now im bankrupt from my war efforts, I cant contain them anymore...

WHEN DO THEY STOP COMING?? I mean a faction can only do so much against them! When do they finally quit and die! ( or just how many waves are there??)

[Silent Assassin]

The third wave is tha last one, but get ready same goes for the Timurids with their War elephants

[StalkAndStrike]

are you sure?? becasue I could deal with them if this is the last, but would you perhaps know what turn the timurids invade? if its anytime soon im going to cry...

[Last of the Mohawks]

Grab a Iberian Base, Castle and city so you can fall back if needed.

[StalkAndStrike]

Grab a Iberian Base, Castle and city so you can fall back if needed.

Well since my empire is so efficient,I can hold all my cities, but at a huge cost-which is fine with me-but my armiess "in the field" have a tremedously hard task of fighting the mongols off, so fallling back isnt valid until they actualy over-whelm me.

By the way last of the mowhak, I love your signature

[Silent Assassin]

Well since my empire is so efficient,I can hold all my cities, but at a huge cost-which is fine with me-but my armiess "in the field" have a tremedously hard task of fighting the mongols off, so fallling back isnt valid until they actualy over-whelm me.

By the way last of the mowhak, I love your signature

It's the last one I can assure you

[Last of the Mohawks]

Well since my empire is so efficient,I can hold all my cities, but at a huge cost-which is fine with me-but my armiess "in the field" have a tremedously hard task of fighting the mongols off, so fallling back isnt valid until they actualy over-whelm me.

By the way last of the mowhak, I love your signature

Haha cheers , I'd leave them on field there HA own! So really getting them in a gate with Spearmen is the best way to deal with them.

[Angrychris]

mongols are easy to deal with when they siege regions, like stated above you can easily bottle neck their horse archer/calv within the gates/wall openings and slaughter them. THe open field battles are where they excel so if you do fall back, it will actualy be more in your favor. Timurids come late in game with outrageous numbers.

[Conquistatore]

Don't worry, your valiant efforts have stalled the mongol invasion of the world. They have but 3 waves and you have dealt with each with stunning brutality and cunning strategy. Rest assured, peace time is nearly upon you.

But beware, Timur the Lame seeks conquest and glory from the East, do well to defend your lands, because should you fall, the fate of the world hangs in the balance.

[Silent Assassin]

the fate of the world hangs in the balance.

You meant hangs in is hands.... If they get passed him the worlds as we know it will never be again

[Gobmech]

You meant hangs in is hands.... If they get passed him the worlds as we know it will never be again

No, that wouldn't make sense. That'd just be repeating everything he said. What he wrote was perfectly right.

[Viking Prince Olaf]

Turkey is I'm not kidding THE BEST faction to fight against the mongols and Timurids.....just wait in A castle...preferbly A Fortress or Citidel
and wait for them at your town square because they have seige wepons.

Get Jannisary archers and place their stakes along the way to the town square impaling their never ending invading whord until only A few units of infantry and foot archers are left and probably won't even get past the second wall.....repeat this process and good luck, this will be cost effective too as this way you only need very few units to upkeep......

You should probably test this though on A custom battle to adapt this tactic to your style before trying it in the grand campaign because once you try it you can't go back....By the way, Keep your castles FULL of
jannisary troops and they can hold out against even several stacks of
Mongols as the stakes will kill all cavelry units to where all you have to worry about is heavy infantry and foot archers.....lol

[Double A]

Why are you fighting the Mongols in the field? Just spam them with archers, naffutan, and spearmen in sieges and you won't have to worry. Use your calvary to pull of "raids."

I know this is a little off topic, but I hope there is a raiding option in Empires.

[StalkAndStrike]

Well I have finally beaten them off for good! Casualty-wise this undertaking was worse than world war one, Im pretty sure there arent a single male left living in my nation, but they never stepped foot in a single city!

And yes I am very pround of myself as this is my first time playing a non-european faction to this extent, on very-hard battle, and hard campaing. And unless you have developped your economy to such an extent as I have done, I WOULD NEVER CONSIDER FACING THEM ON THE FIELD its a slaughter house, but an exiting one at that!

When I finally deduced them to a fraction of a banner, I attempted to give them crete to live out their days, as they had fought well, or perhaps a city in brasil? But I was too angry at the incredible lossed I have suffered: Aprox. 7 full stacks where lost in this war- so they were promptly exterminated!


By the way! How will the timurids fair compared to the mongolian invasion? are they stronger in the field? are there more? How many invasions etc...

[Conquistatore]

Haha, the Mongols are a sick dying baby waving a blade of grass compared to the Timurids. Be prepared to get steamrolled and squashed by elephants with big guns.

Just load up with cannons and gunpowder and fire and hope for the best my friend. "A new force comes from the East!"

[axnsan]

the timurids come like 5 turns after the great plague - turn 140 if i well remember, they could find themselves a better moment methinks
they come in 3 waves too, but they have this brutally efective elephants that are so brave they dont get scared when you fire a serpentine or musket from their back.and lots of them.they also have horse archers, haldberdiers and some other scary things
best bet will be to wait them in settlements and bottleneck them at the gate or wallbreach

[Leonidas_I]

Or get mouse elephants hate mice.

[John-117]

what faction are you? I know some factions (like venice) get mounted crossbowmen, and some get mounted archers. the best thing you can do to combat them is to fight fire with fire. send out a full stack of about 5 heavy cavalry, 5 light cavalry, and 10 archer/crossbowmen cavalry. that's how i did it, and i simply drove them to extinction.another good way is send endless waves of assassins to their family, and just kill them all off. once that is done, they will become rebels or have no leadership. that is when u move in for the kill with that full stac i described

[Pink Beard]

the best thing you can do to combat them is to fight fire with fire.

So, hire some merc elephants you mean?

[Conquistatore]

Another good way is send endless waves of assassins to their family, and just kill them all off. once that is done, they will become rebels or have no leadership. that is when u move in for the kill

To me this tactic is sort of depriving yourself of the experience of the mongols or in effect taking 'the easy way out'. Try saving your game when you get the message that the mongols are coming and then play around with different ways to beat them. Don't just resort to this quick and easy tactic before trying anything else!