Force Diplomacy mod

**mw1776** · January 27, 2009, 04:04 PM

Anyone who's played Europa Barbarorum or Rome: Total Realism knows about the Force Diplomacy mod option for them.

Is there anything like this for SS? Is there a mod that allows the player to force any diplomatic option on the AI? I mostly use it in the Rome mods to expand historically and to keep the AI factions in balance.

**mw1776** · January 28, 2009, 11:37 AM

I'm guessing by the lack of responses that no one has developed a mod like this for M2TW.

**delra** · January 28, 2009, 11:41 AM

I don't think there's one. But you can always use add_money to add yourself lots of cash and then pay this cash to the AI for the decision you want them to make. After that you use add_money with negative value to remove that cash from their account.

I think half a million is enough to get anything you want, even bribing El Cid of Valencia.

**Emperor VI** · January 28, 2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by delra

I don't think there's one. But you can always use add_money to add yourself lots of cash and then pay this cash to the AI for the decision you want them to make. After that you use add_money with negative value to remove that cash from their account.

I think half a million is enough to get anything you want, even bribing El Cid of Valencia.

How is it done? (i know add money part, but I do not know deduct money part)

**delra** · January 28, 2009, 02:24 PM

Just use a negative.

add_money faction -10000

**Emperor VI** · January 28, 2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by delra

Just use a negative.

instead of faction I have to write the name of the nation?

**delra** · January 28, 2009, 03:01 PM

Yeah, can take those from honga site or from one of many mod files. Who exactly you want to rob?

**Emperor VI** · January 28, 2009, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by delra

Yeah, can take those from honga site or from one of many mod files. Who exactly you want to rob?

Thanks mate...

The thing is, in my recent TO game I had reduced Norway to one settlement, but they do not want to accept vassalage (I do not want to destroy them) or ceasefire, which is ridiculous. I want to force them.

**delra** · January 29, 2009, 04:34 AM

Kill their army, besiege them a few times but don't assault. Usually changes their mind.

By the way, due to money script, you don't want to have vassals at all. Vassal pays you half of his income, he gets this income from script when he's in debt.

So you will be FLOODED with cash and your game with become lame and easy (c).

Sorry to tell you but Vassals is one of many features you just shouldn't use in SS.

**Emperor VI** · January 29, 2009, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by delra

Kill their army, besiege them a few times but don't assault. Usually changes their mind.

By the way, due to money script, you don't want to have vassals at all. Vassal pays you half of his income, he gets this income from script when he's in debt.

So you will be FLOODED with cash and your game with become lame and easy (c).

Sorry to tell you but Vassals is one of many features you just shouldn't use in SS.

I forced Norway to become my Vassal without any add_money stuff... For that I gave it 1000 gold and 500 gold per turn for 5 years. They have happily accepted it. The thing is, I do not get any money from Norway as tribute as it seems that their treasury is in negative. I think it is because they have only one fortress (Oslo) and 2 full stack of army, so even 9000 gold injection do not allow them to be in surplass. I am happy with the situation as it is my punishment to them for annoying me so long.(nearly 60 years)

PS. How can vassals break the agreement?

PS. It seems that Norway wants to attack Scotland who had previously captured two their cities to the west of Oslo. May be after that I'll get some money from them.

**delra** · January 29, 2009, 04:50 AM

Money script should keep them above zero...

Vassals can break the deal via declaring war on their master and maybe via diplomacy too but I don't think AI uses that feature. I never saw AI coming to me proposing we broke our alliance together.

They just attack me... So I guess that's also what a vassal would do.