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    Default California prepares to stop paying bills.

    http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...w&pageId=87175

    The state of California has run out of money.



    Facing a $42 billion budget deficit, State Controller John Chiang told the Sacramento Bee he has already borrowed $21.5 billion to try to cover the state's checks, but by Feb. 1, there will be no more options left but to simply stop paying some of the bills – including tax refunds, welfare checks, student grants and other payments owned to California citizens.
    "It pains me to pull this trigger," Chiang said at a news conference held in his office. "But it is an action that is critically necessary."



    Federal law requires that many school and healthcare programs – a total of about $6.6 billion in California – must be paid, the Los Angeles Times reports, so Chiang has announced an expected payment freeze on $3.7 billion worth of the state's bills, most of it refunds owed to taxpayers.



    But even with the freeze beginning next week, the Times reports, California will still fall $346 million short for the month of February, forcing Chiang to consider something only done once since the Great Depression: issuing IOUs.



    Formally called "registered warrants," the state's IOUs consist of little more than a piece of paper
    that says the state owes a payee money, plus interest, to be paid at some point in the future.



    The last time California issued registered warrants was in 1992, during two-month budget battle between then-Gov. Pete Wilson and the state's legislators. But after the state issued almost $4 billion worth of IOUs, many banks stopped accepting them as deposits, claiming the five percent interest didn't pay for the hassle of processing them.



    The Times reports that state officials have already designed an IOU template for February and begun negotiating with banks to avoid a repeat of 1992's problems.



    Beth Mills, a spokeswoman for the California Bankers Association, however, told the Bee that the group's members still have "a lot of technical and operational questions we're trying to get some resolution on" about IOUs.
    For now, state officials are hoping that Chiang's promised payment freezes can delay the budget crisis long enough for Gov. Schwarzenegger and the Legislature to find a solution.



    Among the $3.7 billion in payments Chiang has targeted to freeze include $1.91 billion in personal income tax refunds, $205 million in court operations, $122 million scheduled to help counties with welfare administration, $13 million in aid and over $700 million in aid to various disabled and needy groups.



    State officials also got a glimmer of hope last week when they learned that more than $11 billion of President Obama's $825 billion economic stimulus plan may land in California's coffers.



    "This takes a big bite out of the state's budget gap," Jean Ross, executive director of the California Budget Project, told the Times. "It is better news than many of us had anticipated."



    Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, D-Los Angeles, however, warned that lawmakers can't rely on Washington to fix the problem.



    "We have to make really horrible cuts, and we have to raise revenue," Bass told the Times. "We are just hoping whatever we get will help us avoid deeper cuts."



    If the cuts aren't deep enough, California may be forced to consider issuing the IOUs. Continued borrowing, Chiang said, is not an option.



    "We are the eighth largest economy," Chiang said, speaking of California's rank among the world's nations, were it an independent country. But comparing it to other states, he said, "We have the 50th or we are tied for last in the credit ratings. We are a world economic power, but we have fiscal mismanagement in this state."
    Much as I hate to say it, California has had this coming for a long time. You spend and spend and spend, and you don't manage the money well, and you don't kick out the parasitical illegal immigrants that are doing nothing but acting as a burden on our health care system...


    ... well, this doesn't surprise me in the least. At any rate, I'm not going to be living in California for too much longer, so in all honesty, the entire state can go to the crapper without me.

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    lol.. 'oops'?

    its yet another one of those situations where u have known it is coming for ages but choose not to do anything because it 'wont happen yet' - except it just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
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    Much as I hate to say it, California has had this coming for a long time. You spend and spend and spend, and you don't manage the money well, and you don't kick out the parasitical illegal immigrants that are doing nothing but acting as a burden on our health care system...


    ... well, this doesn't surprise me in the least. At any rate, I'm not going to be living in California for too much longer, so in all honesty, the entire state can go to the crapper without me.
    Texas still has billions in its rainy day fund, fyi.
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    Default Re: California prepares to stop paying bills.

    Well, anywhere else but California.

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    As someone living in California I admit that this state is way too generous and pampering toward its population. Everything is subsidized here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    As someone living in California I admit that this state is way too generous and pampering toward its population. Everything is subsidized here.
    and we get to look forward to this nationwide within the next 4 years ....hoorah!!!!

    say goodbye to the peoples repulic of Kalifornia.
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    Not to mention we're taxed and taxed and taxed. Oh, we're out of money? Hey, let's just raise taxes! It couldn't be from fiscal mismanagement, oh no, never!

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    East coast rules...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamos32 View Post
    East coast rules...
    Westside tbfh - u rap about it, we live it... (spoken as if i was from cali lulz....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carach View Post
    Westside tbfh - u rap about it, we live it... (spoken as if i was from cali lulz....)
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    Didn't Chiang threaten to resign last year because the spending was going way out of control and no one cared about balancing the books?

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    I'm pretty sure that's what happened. But no, everybody bought into the hype and elected Schwarzenegger as governor, simply because he's a famous actor. Nevermind the fact that he has no idea how to run a state, he's famous!

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    I will have to help them. I need to win 2012.

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    :hmmm: I will have to help them. I need to win 2012.
    Your re-election depends on what you do this term, Mr. President. Do not up too badly or you can kiss 2012 goodbye
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Your re-election depends on what you do this term, Mr. President. Do not up too badly or you can kiss 2012 goodbye
    That can't happen. I was foretold by a blind Jamaican rastaman that my Messiahship would last 1000 years. Presidential limit reforms here I come!

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    That can't happen. I was foretold by a blind Jamaican rastaman that my Messiahship would last 1000 years. Presidential limit reforms here I come!
    But will you last a thousand years? Will you be able to live up to the hype that has surrounded you? Will you be able to relieve California in the next year? Doubts cloud my mind, Mr. President :hmmm:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barack Hussein Obama View Post
    I will have to help them. I need to win 2012.
    The problem your Excellancy, is that too many of those Californicators have a sense of entitlement. They feel it is their god given right to drive an SUV like everyone else and play with the latest electronic toy. They are having a hard time understanding, and agreeing, that in times of austerity, ALL Americans must do their duty. They are "takers" rather than "givers".

    I'm actually a little surprised that someone of your intellect, and announced plans, would want votes from folks who leech off society.
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    parasitical illegal immigrants that are doing nothing but acting as a burden on our health care system...
    And who's going to pick those fruit and vegetable crops that mean so much to the California economy - every tried working in the field yourself?
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    Actually, yes. I've worked on farms before, and I've done yardwork, with hired help sometimes from the illegal immigrants.

    And I've seen firsthand how they work, and I'm completely unimpressed.

    Furthermore, I live near several hospitals that have either gone out of business because they clog up all the emergency rooms, or they are forced to resort to non-emergency services.

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    So, California is going to bankrupt??

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