A Beginner's Guide to the Export_Descr_Unit

[Ishan]

@kingsaul
Ah the classic problem.
Simply delete the:-
1) battle.sd
2) shared.sd
3) strategy.sd
files from the Data\UI folder of your mod and everything will be set.

[bravoman]

can i increase the hit point of a unit?like 50 attacke and 50 defence?its unbalance i know

[Ishan]

Yes.

[kingsaul]

So what if I wanted to add units from MTW2 to my Kingdoms ? How would I go about that ?

[bravoman]

Yes.

how?

[Ishan]

how?

Open the EDU file that is export_descr_unit.txt file and change these values for example:-

type             Knights Templar
dictionary       Knights_Templar      ; Knights Templar
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy
banner faction   main_cavalry
banner unit      templars
soldier          Knights_Templar, 32, 0, 1
mount            mailed horse
mount_effect     elephant -4, camel -4
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, knight
formation        2, 4.4, 3, 6, 2, square, wedge
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         13, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, spear, 25, 1
;stat_pri_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         14, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex      0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  7, 5, 4, metal
;stat_armour_ex   7, 8, 0, 0, 5, 4, 4, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        5
stat_ground      0, -2, -4, 0
stat_mental      11, impetuous, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 45
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 880, 250, 130, 100, 880, 4, 220
armour_ug_levels 3, 4
armour_ug_models Knights_Templar, Knights_Templar_ug1
ownership        england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary
;unit_info        13, 0, 16

Red is your hitpoints
green being the primary attack
blue being the total defense of the unit.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

;Data entries are as follows
; Type The internal name of the unit. Note this not necessarily the same as the on screen name
; dictionary The tag used to look up the on screen name
;
;Category and class define the rough type of the unit. They're used for setting some default attributes and for
;determining where units go in formation amongst other things such as tags to support AI army formation
; category infantry, cavalry, siege, handler, ship or non_combatant
; class light, heavy, missile or spearmen
;
; voice_type Used to determine the type of voice used by the unit
;
; soldier Name of the soldier model to use (from descr_models_battle.txt)
; followed by the number of ordinary soldiers in the unit
; followed by the number of extras (pigs dogs, elephants, chariots artillery pieces etc attached to the unit)
; followed by the collision mass of the men. 1.0 is normal. [Only applies to infantry]
; officer Name of officer model. There may be up to 0-3 officer lines per unit
; ship Type of ship used if applicable
; engine Type of siege engine used by unit
; animal The type of (non ridden) animals used by the unit
; mount Type of animal or vehicle ridden on
;
; mount_effect Factors to add when in combat against enemy units that have the specified mounts
; Up to three factors may be specified, which may be classes of mount, or specific types
;
; attributes A miscellanious list of attributes and abilities the unit may have. Including
; sea_faring = can board ships; can_swim = can swim across rivers
; hide_forest, hide_improved_forest, hide_anywhere = defines where the unit can hide
; can_sap = Can dig tunnels under walls
; frighten_foot, frighten_mounted = Cause fear to certain nearby unit types
; can_run_amok = Unit may go out of control when riders lose control of animals
; general_unit = The unit can be used for a named character's bodyguard
; cantabrian_circle = The unit has this special ability
; no_custom = The unit may not be selected in custom battles
; command = The unit carries a legionary eagle, and gives bonuses to nearby units
; mercenary_unit = The unit is s mercenary unit available to all factions
; is_peasant = unknown
; druid = Can do a special morale raising chant
; power_charge = unkown
; free_upkeep_unit = Unit can be supported free in a city
;
; formation soldier spacing (in metres) side to side, then front to back for close formation
; followed by the same measurements in loose formation.
; followed by the default number of ranks for the unit
; followed by the formations possible for the unit. One or two of
; square, horde, schiltrom, shield_wall, phalanx, testudo, or wedge
;
; stat_health Hit points of man, followed by hit points of mount or attached animal (if applicable)
; Ridden horses and camels do not have separate hit points
;
;Details of unit's primary weapon. If the unit has a missile weapon it must be the primary
; stat_pri From left to right
; attack factor
; attack bonus factor if charging
; missile type fired (no if not a missile weapon type)
; range of missile
; amount of missile ammunition per man
; Weapon type = melee, thrown, missile, or siege_missile
; Tech type = simple, other, blade, archery or siege
; Damage type = piercing, blunt, slashing or fire. (I don't think this is used anymore)
; Sound type when weapon hits = none, knife, mace, axe, sword, or spear
; Optional. Name of effect to play when weapon fires
; Min delay between attacks (in 1/10th of a second)
; Skeleton compensation factor in melee. Should be 1
; stat_pri_ex Optional. attack bonus vs mounted, defence bonus vs mounted, armour penetration
; stat_pri_attr
; primary weapon attributes any or all of
; ap = armour piercing. Only counts half of target's armour
; bp = body piercing. Missile can pass through men and hit those behind
; spear = Used for long spears. Gives bonuses fighting cavalry, and penalties against infantry
; long_pike = Use very long pikes. Phalanx capable units only
; short_pike = Use shorter than normal spears.
; prec = Missile weapon is only thrown/ fired just before charging into combat
; thrown = The missile type if thrown rather than fired
; launching = attack may throw target men into the air
; area = attack affects an area, not just one man
; spear & light_spear = The unit when braced has various protecting mechanisms versus cavalry charges from the front
; spear_bonus_x = attack bonus against cavalry. x = 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 or 12
;
;Details of secondary weapons. If the unit rides on, or has attached animals or vehicles
;then the secondary weapon details refer to their attacks. If the unit has missile weapons
;the secondary weapon will be the one used for melee
;If the unit has a primary melee weapon, it may have a secondary side arm
; stat_sec As per stat_pri (a value of no means no secondary weapon)
; stat_sec_ex as per stat_pri_ex
; stat_sec_attr As per stat_pri_attr
; stat_ter As per stat_pri If there is no ternary weapon, then there are no ternary data entries
; stat_ter_ex as per stat_pri_ex
; stat_ter_attr As per stat_pri_attr
;
; stat_pri_armour Details of the man's defences
; armour factor
; defensive skill factor (not used when shot at)
; shield factor (only used for attacks from the front of left)
; sound type when hit = flesh, leather, or metal
; stat_armour_ex Details of the man's defences
; armour factor. 4 values. First for base value, then 3 upgrade levels
; defensive skill factor (not used when shot at)
; shield factors. First for melee, second for missile fire
; sound type when hit = flesh, leather, or metal
;
; stat_sec_armour Details of animal's or vehicle's defenses (note riden horses do not have a separate defence)
; As per stat_pri_armour, except that the shield entry is ommited
;
; stat_heat Extra fatigue suffered by the unit in hot climates
;
; stat_ground Combat modifiers on different ground types. From left to right
; scrub, sand, forest, snow
; stat_mental The base morale level, followed by discipline and training
; discipline may be normal, low, disciplined or impetuous. Impetuous units may charge without orders
; training determines how tidy the unit's formation is. Discipline the response to morale SHOCKS
; optional lock_morale stops unit from ever routing
;
; stat_charge_distance Distance from the enemy that the unit will begin charging
; stat_fire_delay Extra delay over that imposed by animation, hetween volleys
;
; stat_food No longer used
; stat_cost Number of turns to build,
; Cost of unit to construct
; Cost of upkeep
; Cost of upgrading weapons
; Cost of upgrading armour
; Cost for custom battles
; stat_stl Number of soldiers needed for unit to count as alive
; armour_ug_levels Smith level needed for each armour upgrade
; armour_ug_models Body for each upgrade level
; stat_ownership List of factions and cultures that may have this unit
; era 0, Optional List of factions that use this in multiplayer era 0
; era 1, Optional List of factions that use this in multiplayer era 1
; era 2, Optional List of factions that use this in multiplayer era 2
; info_pic_dir Optional. Dir to find the info pic in (instead of faction dir)
; card_pic_dir Optional. Dir to find the unit card in (instead of faction dir)
; unit_info Info for unit info panel. Melee attack, missile attack, defence

Hope that helps.

[Ishan]

You never told me that your in game interface is alright or not first. Is it ok now?

[kingsaul]

O ya it worked for the most part . Still one ore 2 glitchs but Thanks a lot . I wrote you a msg but i was having probs with this sight saying I was loged out when I hit submit reply .

[Ishan]

Alright thanks for confirming it. Onto your question as per post#114. It's the same process like adding some other unit from kingdoms\any other mod to your vanilla mod.
In this case you will be dealing with the modeldb\EDU\export_units.txt etc files of your kingdoms campaign mod.
Read this tutorial.

[kingsaul]

Thanks . good basic Info . But I thought their might be an easier way . In MTW2 when you unpack the files The EDU folder has all the units from MTW2 and Crusades . Cant I just change the ownership OF the unit in EDU ?

[xxxMoRaVexxx]

Thanks . good basic Info . But I thought their might be an easier way . In MTW2 when you unpack the files The EDU folder has all the units from MTW2 and Crusades . Cant I just change the ownership OF the unit in EDU ?

You must also modify the units modeldb file block for example you want to add the english longbowmen to france, just ctrl+f to find the longbowmen, add lines for france on the longbowmans file block and also assign textures there and you've got a longbowmen for france.

[bravoman]

tnx fpr ypur reaply. few q'
the higher the "red"(stat_health) the higher the hitpoint?i can change the 1 to like 50?if i change it to 0 is that mean no hitpoint (god mode)?
"stat_pri_armour" whats the limit?i mean i can change it to 100?
i use CAE,is that make a difference?

"stat_pri_armour 7, 5, 4, metal"---what the second number mean?and the third
";stat_armour_ex 11, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0, metal"-what that line mean?

and wheres the line to change the attack data?

and do i have to start a new game?for evry change?

that alot of Q,sory for that

[Moon]

tnx fpr ypur reaply. few q'
the higher the "red"(stat_health) the higher the hitpoint? YES
i can change the 1 to like 50? maybe, never tried it.
if i change it to 0 is that mean no hitpoint (god mode)? (god mode no, defeat yes)

"stat_pri_armour" whats the limit?i mean i can change it to 100?
i use CAE,is that make a difference? from memory, Rome Total War was about seventy, this game might be the same.

"stat_pri_armour 7, 5, 4, metal"---what the second number mean?and the third. defensive skill factor (not used when shot at) shield factor.
";stat_armour_ex 11, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0, metal"-what that line mean?
anything commented out is ignored in this game.
and wheres the line to change the attack data?
stat_pri 9, 3, cav_bodkin_arrow, 120, 20, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 25, 1
stat_pri From left to right
9= attack factor. 3= attack bonus factor if charging. missile type fired (no if not a missile weapon type) 120= range of missile, 20=amount of missile ammunition per man
and do i have to start a new game?for evry change? no, in this file your changes will be implemented immediately.

that alot of Q,sory for that

[anonimo272]

is there a way to edit units accuracy ?

[Ishan]

If you meant archers then yes you have to modify the projectile that those archers uses.

[anonimo272]

just archers ?

i wanted more accuracy to gunpower units...
so theres other projectiles to gunpower units ?

[SoulBlade]

It isn't in the EDU. It's descr_projectiles.txt.

[anonimo272]

projectile quality_musket_bullet

effect bullet_model_set
end_effect bullet_impact_ground_set
end_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_package_effect bullet_impact_wall_set
end_shatter_effect bullet_impact_ground_set
end_shatter_man_effect man_impact_tiny_set
end_shatter_package_effect bullet_impact_wall_set

damage 0
radius 0.001
mass 0.14
accuracy_vs_units 0.0575
affected_by_rain
min_angle -80
max_angle 70
velocity 450 450
display aimed


for making my units shotting with more aim/being like robin wood i need to make the value of:accuracy_vs_units bigger or smaller ?

[Ishan]

Smaller the better & one can also increase the accuracy for all units by fiddling with battle_config.xml file:-

		<missile-target-accuracy>
			<infantry>0.80</infantry>
			<cavalry>0.65</cavalry>
			<elephants>0.50</elephants>
		</missile-target-accuracy>

Increase to increase the accuracy and vice-versa in this case.

[anonimo272]

type Reiters
dictionary Reiters ; Reiters
category cavalry
class skirmish
voice_type Heavy
accent German
banner faction main_cavalry
banner holy crusade_cavalry
soldier Reiters, 32, 0, 1
officer Reiters_ug1
officer hre_captain_flag
mount courser
mount_effect elephant -4, camel -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, can_withdraw, can_formed_charge, cantabrian_circle, frighten_foot, gunpowder_unit, start_not_skirmishing, guncavalry
formation 1.5, 4, 3, 5, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 19, 5, quality_pistol_bullet, 55, 4, missile, missile_gunpowder, piercing, none, musket_shot_set, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr ap, area
stat_sec 10, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 15, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 11, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground -1, -2, -3, -1
stat_mental 15, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 20
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 5, 1530, 365, 120, 95, 1165, 4, 230
armour_ug_levels 21, 24, 25, 26
armour_ug_models Reiters, Reiters_ug1, Reiters_ug1, Reiters_ug1
ownership all, hre, teu, hungary
era 0 hre, teu, hungary
era 2 hre, teu, hungary

here in EDU you can see that i dont have this line:
recruit_priority_offset

so the game recruits the firt unit it see or what ? and there are consequences if i had this line to every unit ? cause i want more "later" units...

ps: with the info you gaved me i am editing units and now it seems i have medieval nukes !!!