The Ultimate DLV Experience...

**Wartower** · January 26, 2009, 02:22 AM

is getting it to work.

**Ahlerich** · January 26, 2009, 03:20 AM

I like the idea.

Lets wait and see what the godfather thinks about this. I bet he has an offer you cant refuse.

**mattgonzo** · January 26, 2009, 07:37 AM

WOW impressive long text

....and i like your idea

**repman** · January 26, 2009, 09:56 AM

Transferring the scripts, traits,.... from 6.0 to Europe would be quite easy since all is modular
But not my business

repman

**Wartower** · January 26, 2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by repman

Transferring the scripts, traits,.... from 6.0 to Europe would be quite easy since all is modular
But not my business

repman

Since DLV is actually your creation, I can only assume that this last line means that Harry would need to transfer all scripts, traits, etc. to DLV Europa and after he did that, then it would be rather easy for you (repman) to implement the "updated" DLV Europa into DLV 6.0 if you so chose?

**Galloglaich** · January 26, 2009, 02:26 PM

I'd love that! Great idea!

**Gaias** · January 27, 2009, 08:04 PM

This is a fine idea and one you should pursue yourself personally. I do believe that Harry Lime and Repman should work on their own mods respectively. Not that I have any say in the matter, but I do believe they benefit from mostly similar but subtly different directions.

**Wartower** · January 27, 2009, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Gaias

This is a fine idea and one you should pursue yourself personally. I do believe that Harry Lime and Repman should work on their own mods respectively. Not that I have any say in the matter, but I do believe they benefit from mostly similar but subtly different directions.

It is beyond my capabilities to pursue such an endeavor. Repman and Harry Lime are both Team DLV'ers, and as such, for something like this to ever come to fruition, it would be up to them entirely.

**~~fishy and wet~~** · January 28, 2009, 01:11 PM

Sorry but this would be impossible - the reason that Harry made DLV Europa a stand-alone is because it is the only way to play it along side normal DLV.

You can't have them both in the same mod because then you're breaching the faction cap of 31, - since Europa and DLV both have different factions. - Maps and traits would work yes, but Units and Factions no.

Sorry

**Xtiaan72** · January 28, 2009, 03:05 PM

not to mention that it was Harry's intention to make a DLV available that didn't have some of the later DLV features ( Gov point ect) of later versions. As many players would rather play a simplified version.

It's the nature of mods, I guess, you can't please all the people all the time.

**Wartower** · January 28, 2009, 06:41 PM

@fishy
DLV uses 29 playable factions. DLV Europa just takes out Aztecs, Milan, and (can't remember) and replaces with Mali, Wales, and Crown of Aragon. You say impossible, I say different folders, different pathing options, you might have something that would work. Frankly, it doesn't really matter because this would never happen anyway. Just dreaming out loud.

Originally Posted by Xtiaan72

not to mention that it was Harry's intention to make a DLV available that didn't have some of the later DLV features ( Gov point ect) of later versions. As many players would rather play a simplified version.

Yeah, and those that want to live in the world of "Harry's intention" could just play regular Europa.

And where do you get that it was his intention to not have some of the later DLV features? He used DLV 5.3 because that was the most recent version out when he started his mod, and it took a lot of time and work to get Europa done. It wasn't because he looked into his crystal ball and said, "Hey, I want to make sure to exclude features that don't even exist yet, from a version that hasn't been released."

It's the nature of mods, I guess, you can't please all the people all the time.

Broken record time. It seems like every time someone has an idea for change (and no, not cav spread) or idea for something new, there you are being fececious (see above) or feeling like you have to defend DLV. That's getting old. Frankly, I would just like to be part of the 98 percentile that can actually get DLV Europa to work. God knows I've logged enough hours trying to figure out a solution for it with zero results. So forgive me for having an idea that would allow us 2%'ers to get a little taste of Europa.

**Xtiaan72** · January 28, 2009, 07:46 PM

Easy there buddy. If you read through the Europa beta thread you will see that lots of players were happy he was using an earlier version because they don't like some of the new features (including your pet peeve cav spread). And indeed, he was happy to oblige them.

I'm not saying you don't have a good idea.

**Marku** · January 30, 2009, 05:48 PM

i like the OP's ideas very much. but its up to Harry more or less :-(

**Wartower** · February 05, 2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Xtiaan72

Easy there buddy. If you read through the Europa beta thread you will see that lots of players were happy he was using an earlier version because they don't like some of the new features (including your pet peeve cav spread). And indeed, he was happy to oblige them.

I'm not saying you don't have a good idea.

You insinuate waaaaay too much. I've mentioned that I don't like the cav spread once, maybe twice, and usually with a disclaimer of sorts, and now it's my "pet peeve"? Ugh.

@Taiji - No, I haven't reinstalled my OS to try and get it working. And I won't. In a few weeks, Empire will be out and that's fine. I stopped playing everything M2TW, and would most likely stop coming to this website entirely, but I have a problem with a certain tool here.

**Taiji** · February 03, 2009, 11:24 AM

I read the OP but I when get the impression that I'm being sold something my eyes glaze over. Can someone tell me what Wartower is suggesting?

**Agis Tournas** · February 03, 2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Taiji

I read the OP but I when get the impression that I'm being sold something my eyes glaze over. Can someone tell me what Wartower is suggesting?

From what I understood Wartower is suggesting a Europa mod based on DLV 6.0 (with all those new features implemented) as part of the DLV mod (placed in custom campaigns - a second choice after Historical campaign)

**Taiji** · February 03, 2009, 12:02 PM

Yeah in principle that sounds cool, mate.

DLV Europa based on version 6, to me this seems an obvious improvement or else why make subesquent versions of DLV which are worse than 5.3?

Even so, Europa is great already. Maybe we need a DLV6 based on Europa? :hmmm:

OK Agistournas, with your help and encouragement I've read the OP properly. Thankyou.

@Wartower, have you reinstalled your operating system in order to get Europa working? Just trying to work out whether you've done all you can to get it working

**Kjertesvein** · February 05, 2009, 07:03 PM

I do not understand. Is Wartower working on a DLV Europa 6.0 right now?
I got shocked the first time I stept in the script world, but good luck on creating your DLV-Wartower mod

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You need to be dedicated to finish a modding project on this scale.