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    Default Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Right, this is the placeholder thread for the preview, which i'm in charge of.

    There are a few things i'd like to discuss, the first of which is, how do we write it? From the perspective of one Senator to another or the whole Senate, at the start of the campaign, as in "Ave, Conscript fathers! The Republic is in peril!" and go on from there?

    If we do that, how do we describe the Post Marian units, since they're rather anachronistic to the description, unless we have a partition of the Preview into two sections, i.e one post, with a campaign overview from the Republic's perspective at the start of the campaign, previewing the Republican units, then a second part of the same post with a post talking about the state of affairs (in a generalised way, so the player isn't dictated to) after the Marian and Imperial reforms, with the relevant units in that section...

    what do you think?
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I'd suggest maybe preview the units and possibly 2 AARs style things - one against Carthage, the other against the Dacians.

    Maybe if you focus on the unit information stuff, and get one of the creative writers to do the campaign style part?


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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Aye aye, Cap'n!

    anyone else have any suggestions?
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I had an AAR floating around, i can try to dig it up .....

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    Rome-Carthage or Rome-Dacia?
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Rome-Arverni but can be changed to Dacia!

    see this

    Very rough beginning which i havent really expanded on but have planned out...
    Pictures are not good quality, just a sense of the angle/ types of shot i was looking for to fit the text


    Chapter I: Council Of War
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    “Our lands are threatened, our territories defiled by barbarians. They flood through our land, land owned by me and you and the people of Rome! This stops now! There must be war!”

    As his voice resounded through the chamber, Gaius’ face was a mask of concern, his once stolid features now showing a great anxiety. He was old, a grizzled veteran of battles past, and yet his love for his country never dimmed. Through the harshest of times, the legions under his command had defended the might of Rome and then expanded across the world. Now, once again, the mighty city found her borders threatened and new blood was required to lead the charge.

    The chamber was finally still after the torrent of debate, the pressure highlighted in every face. The message from the borders had been simple: the enemy comes. Even now, the streams of uncultured warriors were racing across the lightly defended borders, encroaching yet further into Rome’s sovereign territory.

    Despite his age, he rose again, his experience giving him the strength to dominate the room. “We have waited too long” his voice resonating deep through the room “...far too long. We must raise our forces and defeat this pest once and for all!”

    Gaius’ voice lowered somewhat, “There is no time for yet more lengthy debate, gentlemen. Another day will change nothing except to bring the enemy closer. There is no option but to fight. And fight we shall!”

    The chamber rose to their feet, in agreement of what must be done. Amidst the clamour, he spoke calmly once more, “this new foe, a tribe that refer to themselves as the Arverni have fought hard against our local forces and they are not to be underestimated. I would task [insert general here] with bringing me the head of their leader and quashing this new tribe of fetid barbarians.” A general consensus echoed throughout the room.

    The legions of Rome would march at first light.










    Chapter II: Whispers from a scout

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    It had been a long day. Pressing a hand against his eyes, [general] felt a surge of exhaustion rise in him like a dark water. The voices in the campaign room mingled with the creak of men on chairs and the rustle of maps. The weather had finally settled and a breeze crept through the camp helping relax the commander somewhat. Although a veteran of numerous smaller skirmishes, his talents were yet to be tested against a real enemy, an enemy that would die in defence of their homeland. Surely, this situation was an opportunity for him to make a name for himself. He could almost see the triumph, hear the trumpets and taste the celebration in the air...

    …A sharp call woke him from his dreamy state, his senses immediately retuning themselves to the surroundings. The scouts had returned from reconnaissance sorties. Welcoming them into the campaign room, he urged them to remember all that they had seen and heard, trusting their well honed instincts.

    The scouts told of tree lined valleys…



    …of rivers crossing the landscape…



    ...and vast plains of Gallic countryside




    Brutus, the lead scout plotted the power of the Arverni across a map that was spread across a large table. Their ancient capitol lay at Gergovia, in the southeast of their lands. Northwest was the city of Lemonum which provided them much trade with the Britons. Northeast from Gergovia was Avaricum, another city once great and renewed by the energy this rising tribe.

    [MAP VIEWS]



    Chapters planned but not written
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    Chapter III: First contact

    Chapter IV: A stinging encounter

    Chapter V: The offensive renewed

    Chapter VI: Avaricum, a tactical capture

    Chapter VII: Son of the enemy

    Chapter VIII: The final offensive

    Chapter IX: March to victory

    Chapter X: Gergovia burns



    Essentially, i was trying to think of a way to best showcase the amazing new environment. As you can see, this isnt really written as a typical AAR (i.e after a battle with description of pics) but rather more as a story in which the situations are moulded towards showing the enviornment/units more.
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I'd be happy to write a few 'story' type posts if any are needed. Got a lot on my plate atm anyway, may as well get some more and make it a three course meal.

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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Errr... MT, are they the new units?
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    No, he was more floating the concept then.


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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Like tone said, this was just me trying to show what I thought the caps should look like.....

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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    oh, sorry, in which case, carry on!

    EDIT: is there a full list of Roman units for me to look at?
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    just some thoughts rory

    Perhaps two grizzled old veterans, sharing a pint and reminiscing about the old days and how the army looks now. How they miss the 'old guard' Triarii, hated how Marius treated them like 'mules', whine about every time you look there's a new 'special' Legion, who was the toughest enemy...and so on.

    or

    Ancient historian debating young upstart protege on pros and cons of before and after.

    Just thoughts.
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Quote Originally Posted by rory o'kane View Post

    EDIT: is there a full list of Roman units for me to look at?

    Here's one for starters:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...6&d=1224083374

    Need to update some of the allied / AOR units


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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I'm bumping this thread, because I need to start work on this soon.
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I think a imperial aar that have a chapter per legion would be quite cool. Giving the fans something new once in a day.
    Btw, I would gladly help you with this.

    Some of my old aar's, they aren't that good as I was quite unused to the english language, something that has got hugely improved by my time here at Twc.
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=172426
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=173741
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Also how about the creation of Rome, with pics, leading up to our time.
    This should be the best review than all others, Maybe some U tube stuff?
    A list of the enemies they would face in their time.

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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I've been practising lots with the movie cam and been scouring the internet for ways of compressing raw fraps video without losing the quality. I've found some pretty decent ones. If you like I can put together a short video montage of Roman units.
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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I think an AAR is too much effort, and will just bog down. Because there is SO much info to get across, we should just do the preview like every other. No need for AAR's or anything, no one will read them, they all just look at the pictures anyway

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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    I agree...an AAR has nothing to do with a preview in the style we have been previewing units. The Roman preview needs to be unique and total dynamite.

    I think, as was suggested at the start, a 'progressive preview' would be good for the Romans, because there is really a big difference between Pre- and post Marian\Imperial Rome.

    Perhaps a focus on what Rome has to face the threat of Hannibal to start (Polybian Legions\Allied), progressing to the Legions and units of Caesar's time (Early Legions), then finally to those of Augustus' time (Imperial Legions and the formation of the Auxilia Battalions). These were really three destiny shaping events in Rome's history shaped by the very military units we are previewing.

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    Default Re: Roman Preview: - Ideas time, folks!

    Quote Originally Posted by dvk901 View Post
    I agree...an AAR has nothing to do with a preview in the style we have been previewing units. The Roman preview needs to be unique and total dynamite.

    I think, as was suggested at the start, a 'progressive preview' would be good for the Romans, because there is really a big difference between Pre- and post Marian\Imperial Rome.

    Perhaps a focus on what Rome has to face the threat of Hannibal to start (Polybian Legions\Allied), progressing to the Legions and units of Caesar's time (Early Legions), then finally to those of Augustus' time (Imperial Legions and the formation of the Auxilia Battalions). These were really three destiny shaping events in Rome's history shaped by the very military units we are previewing.
    Why not break it into multiple previews? There's more than enough units to fill out 2 or 3 previews...



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