rebelling generals

**shmigao** · January 23, 2009, 08:56 PM

quick question.
several of my generals rebelled (bad traits i guess, such as YOU ARE NOT MY KING) and only by expelling them from the cities / castles they were running I could restore public order in those cities / castles. Now they are standing around near by the cities. I thought I could get them back on track by letting them lead armies, but in fact they won't move. One general moves 1 step per round, the others do not move at all.
They generally do not bother me a lot, although I guess they are wasting my money. Can I disband them? Or is there a way to get them back on track?
thanks for any hint.

**lordextra0** · January 23, 2009, 09:43 PM

for more loyality put them in the kings army for a few turns
disband mhmmm well-----suicide charge/ship

**shmigao** · January 24, 2009, 02:01 AM

alright, then i have to move king's army to them to merge, because they won't move...

**Neige** · January 24, 2009, 02:03 AM

Why wont they move?

**shmigao** · January 24, 2009, 02:08 AM

2 generals don't move (on the campaign map). I point a way for them, but the line is red right from the first step. 1 general moves 1 step per round maximum.

**SirKoskelot** · January 24, 2009, 04:10 AM

That´s a feature in SS, I suppose. When the general gets angry at you, he turns into an annoying brat, who does nothing cause you didn´t give him candy. This results in refusal to move and they can even lock themselves into the city they occupy. Ultimately they supposedly turn to rebel.

I´m not absolutely sure how it works, or is this caused by some SS submod (I´m confused with all these mods...). But this has happened to me too. Nice touch, adds depth to the characters.

**Aenima** · January 24, 2009, 02:01 PM

im pretty sure thats to do with your leaders authority, and how important the mentioned general feels. they lock themselves in cities and can even have a trait sayin 'your not my king!' and basically throw a tantrum

**shmigao** · January 24, 2009, 10:31 PM

thanks for all your advise. it's correct. luckily finally Emperor Heinrich passed away from old age, and within 2 rounds 2 rebelling generals were reconciled (1 being the new ruler... just like real life :-) ) and 1 just became a real rebel that I attacked and destroyed 2 rounds later.
good lesson for me and it really adds to reality. although I believe the possibility to execute rebelling generals would be a nice feature for future mod extensions.

**Caesar Clivus** · January 25, 2009, 01:29 AM

Unfortunately you can only assassinate them after they become rebels. Can't change assassins to kill your own faction members.

**Angrychris** · January 25, 2009, 03:32 AM

Have you been attacking and sacking or eradicating fellow muslims or christian rebels/factions?

**shmigao** · January 25, 2009, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Angrychris

Have you been attacking and sacking or eradicating fellow muslims or christian rebels/factions?

Yes, i thought about it and that was probably the reason for low loyalty and bad reputation of the previous emperor: i sacked every city i invaded to quickly earn money... since then have changed and do not opt for sacking that often.