Is the diplomacy bribing broken?

**tuore** · January 23, 2009, 12:26 PM

I've wondered, is it true that in M2TW the bribing system is broken? I never success in bribing, so i guess it is. Someone, please answer

**Viking Prince** · January 23, 2009, 12:31 PM

Bribing works better with rebels than factions and better with captains than generals/family. It is also helpful to bribe faction forces that are not in home regions and in danger of not getting paid (bankrupt). Your reputation is also a huge factor.

**Pink Beard** · January 24, 2009, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Viking Prince

Bribing works better with rebels than factions and better with captains than generals/family. It is also helpful to bribe faction forces that are not in home regions and in danger of not getting paid (bankrupt). Your reputation is also a huge factor.

hmmm meh. it is sorts of broken. in my games even when i have 10.000 left i can't even bribe a peasant rebel army... they always bable something about pride and loyalty... LMAO WTF ur proud of? And where's your loyalty? Your nothing more then a traitorous rebel!!!

**Viking Prince** · January 24, 2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Pink Beard

hmmm meh. it is sorts of broken. in my games even when i have 10.000 left i can't even bribe a peasant rebel army... they always bable something about pride and loyalty... LMAO WTF ur proud of? And where's your loyalty? Your nothing more then a traitorous rebel!!!

I forgot to mention the authority of each sovereign is also a factor. If the poor peasant has a high authority sovereign and your king is a virtual noob -- If I was that peasant, money would not change my alliegance. Also, I am not certain of the mechanism, but there is a dishonor to accepting a bribe. It needs to be offered more than once. Maybe on more than one turn also.

**Leonidas_I** · January 25, 2009, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Pink Beard

hmmm meh. it is sorts of broken. in my games even when i have 10.000 left i can't even bribe a peasant rebel army... they always bable something about pride and loyalty... LMAO WTF ur proud of? And where's your loyalty? Your nothing more then a traitorous rebel!!!

They never learn do they.

Oh and iv done most of the stuff and bribing still doesn't work for me so i gave up.

**Tricky557** · January 24, 2009, 11:29 PM

Also helps to have a diplomat with a high diplomacy rating. I've had success bribing. I once bribed an entire stack of French units over to my side. Given, it was mostly militia units, a few archers, and some catapults, but it was early in the game and it gave me the upper hand, and essentially the keys to Paris.

2 questions on bribery:

1) Does the quality of the units count in the success/fail of bribery? In other words, do you have less of a chance to bribe Feudal Knights than, say, spear militia.

2) I've never successfully bribed a city/castle. Can it be done at all? Theres the option, but it's never gotten me anywhere.

**Angrychris** · January 25, 2009, 03:29 AM

Not worth the time in my opinion unless you have nothing else to do.

**Manoflooks** · January 25, 2009, 04:44 AM

It works, you just need to have lot of money. I bribed a tiny moorish town with 2 units for 40something thousand. It was worth it, as I might have lost my army if they hadnt sent their army across the map to get it back instead of attacking me.

**Conquistatore** · January 25, 2009, 05:27 PM

Bribing is nothing like it was in MTW. Virtually impossible in MTW2 which is sad as it was an easy way to gain a region or a really nice army. The amount of money that armies and cities demand is ridiculous, especially when they are low quality troops or an underdeveloped city. IMO it is cheaper to just conquer and kill.

**tuore** · January 26, 2009, 01:09 AM

Ok. Thanks for answers!

**pileyourbodies** · January 26, 2009, 04:37 PM

Bribing costs more than just money, it also costs some reputation, even when it fails(and it does a lot)

**Callawyn** · January 26, 2009, 06:33 PM

There's 2 traits for Authority and 1 for Dread, for your Faction Leader, that can be increased simply by ordering diplos to bribe, regardless of success, so if you're strong enough not to care about your reputation (or its already in the sewer), bribe away.