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    Default PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Building on the features of Battle for the Baltic v1.0 released by Firebat11 and myself, the next version will include some exiting new features.

    Features of v2.0:

    New unit rosters for Novgorod and Kievan Rus
    Thanks to the Rusichi: Total War team, Battle for the Baltic v2.0 will feature all new units, models and skins for both Russian factions in Stainless Steel. The rosters of these two factions will be more similar than they are now: after all they are the same people. But there will still be a healthy mix of units unique to each faction that will differentiate how these factions will fight. Infantry will still play a strong role in both factions but Novgorod, influenced more by the west, relies more heavily on archers and heavy cavalry. Kievan Rus, exposed more to the peoples of the steppe, will focus more on mounted archers than their northern neighbours.

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    Woodsmen


    Senior Militia
    Older militiamen who have had some training and some experience on the battlefield. At the end of the day, they are still militia and won't hold up well against professional soldiers.


    Novgorod Crossbowmen
    A unique unit of Novgorod. Professional crossbowmen, protected with a large pavise-like shield.


    Novgorod Home Guard


    Gridni
    Professional spearmen. Replaces the spearmen unit.


    Druzhina
    The personal soldiers of the Knyaz.


    Druzhina will receive an extra armour upgrade to make them viable in the later stages of campaigns.


    Chernye Klobuki
    Steppe horsemen in the service of Kiev. Replaces the Heavy Horsearchers.


    Brodniki
    The forerunners of the Cossacks. Brodniki lived along the rivers in Rus territory. This unique unit for Kievan Rus has the advantage of being able to hide on the battlefield


    Boyars
    The Russian equivalent of feudal knights.


    Heavy Boyar Cavalry
    It's proximity to the west meant that Novgorod developed heavier cavalry than in other areas of medieval Russia. Novgorod's status as a major centre of trade meant that the armour of the richer Boyars is a mixture of Russian and western styles and technology.


    Heavy Boyars also fight dismounted, where they forgo their shields and wield their blades with both hands.


    Sulitsi Cavalry
    Javelin throwing cavalry of Novgorod.


    Cossacks
    Swift and deadly, these masters of the steppe provide Kiev with great mobility on the battlefield.


    Cossack Gunners


    Streltsy
    These musket armed militia are available to both Kievan Rus and Novgorod. Strictly speaking, Streltsy were only formed in Muscovy under Ivan Grozny. But given the fact that there is no Muscovy in SS and given the need for a late gunpowder unit for these factions, it's much better to have a unit that did historically exist, even if in a slightly different context. Oh and it should be pointed out that if Streltsy ever get into melee combat, their opponents will be in for a big (and historically accurate) surprise....


    Russian Leaders
    From left to right: Faction Leader, Heir, General and Captain



    Additions to the Teutonic Order
    In addition to Firebat11's new unit roster, the Teutonic Knights will receive a few minor changes:

    • New ancillaries specific to historical positions within the Order
    • Minor German grammatical fixes.
    • Minor graphical fixes to units.
    • New optional german unit name installation file. For that extra bit of realism
    • New hospital building. Reflects the original reason why the Order was first founded.

    Thanks to Stephen St de Omer for his help with information and suggestions on the Order

    New Strat Map Models
    Again, thank to the Rusichi team, Kievan Rus and Novgorod will include all new strat map models for all armies and agents on the map.

    From left to right:
    Top row: Faction leader, heir, general, captain.
    Bottom row: Assassin, princess, diplomat, merchant, spy, bishop and priest.



    There will also be new strat models for the Teutonic Order.

    New faction: Sweden
    No Baltic mod could be complete without the inclusion of the Kingdom of Sweden as a faction. Sweden will boast strong infantry and ranged units, but will lack cavalry due to the unsuitability of most of Scandinavia for traditional cavalry tactics.
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    New skins for Poland
    Thanks to MadTAO and the Lithuania Mod team, Poland will receive new skins for some of it's units:

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    Lithuanian Archers


    Polish Knights


    Piast Nobles


    Polish Retainers


    Spearmen



    New feature: Brand new units for the Mongols!
    Again thanks to Rusichi, Battle for the Baltic will feature brand new units for the Mongols. No more general "Mongol Heavy Archers" or "Mongol Infantry". Now you will fight against (or with) the likes of the Turhugut, the Merguen and Keshik. Why are there new units for the Mongols in a submod about the Baltic I hear you ask? For two reasons:
    1. The mongols feature in the new Baltic campaign map.
    2. When I saw how absolutely beautiful these new units are, I couldn't not include them.
    All credits go to the amazing Rusichi team.











    New Battle for the Baltic Campaign.

    Battle for the Baltic will feature an all new campaign map centered on the Baltic Sea. Instead of using the Teutonic campaign map from Kingdoms as I initially intended, I am very pleased to announce that BftB2 will feature an all new Baltic map designed and crafted by EarendilElenthol. This map will feature MANY more regions than the Kingdoms map. Please head over to http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=221534 to give EarendilElenthol some rep!










    More information to come soon!

    Release date: When it's done!

    Notes:

    • Will require SSTC (but if you don't like the officers and standard bearers, you can easily turn them off)

    Credits
    Models & textures: the Rusichi team (units), ArgentUsher (horses) & Lord_Calidor (weapons), MadTAO (Poland skins)
    Research & info: Stephan St de Omer and various others throughout this thread
    And thanks to Firebat11 for his Teutonic Order mod and (of course) the original Battle for the Baltic
    Last edited by Caesar Clivus; September 06, 2009 at 12:28 AM.

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Looks awesome, can't wait.

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    Definitely awesome. I'll be looking forward to this one!

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    Wow..the units from Rusichi mod look awesome, but the kingdoms campaign with SS units and improvements, sounds extra sweet!

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    Will be compatible with Point Balnk's Real Recruitment?

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Principe Alessandro View Post
    Will be compatible with Point Balnk's Real Recruitment?
    A version will be released for RR yes

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Can we see a more detailed screenie (i.e. closeup) of the new strat map agents, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostiko View Post
    Can we see a more detailed screenie (i.e. closeup) of the new strat map agents, please?
    Sure thing. As soon as I get them in the game

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    I love Battle for the Baltic v1.0, cant wait for this
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    Could add Madtao's Baltic Crusade new units? that's will be great!

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    again spears for the Druzhina,they should have lances not those toth picking sticks

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by maxstill View Post
    again spears for the Druzhina,they should have lances not those toth picking sticks
    Lances were a western european weapon.

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    is the New Battle for the Baltic Campaign within SS 6.1 or is it a seperate folder altogether...?

    also have you considered asking the Lithuanian mod to borrow some of their teuton/lithuania textures?


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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic Joe View Post
    is the New Battle for the Baltic Campaign within SS 6.1 or is it a seperate folder altogether...?
    Within SS6.1. It just adds a new campaign to select from on the screen where you select the late era campaign

    also have you considered asking the Lithuanian mod to borrow some of their teuton/lithuania textures?
    SS already uses their lithuanian textures. And I'm happy with the new textures that SS uses for the Teutonic Order already

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    will it still be capadable with the RR/RC mod pack?


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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Teutonic Joe View Post
    will it still be capadable with the RR/RC mod pack?
    Of course. I can't play without RR

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    YAY


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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    New Battle for the Baltic Campaign.
    Now you can play the Teutonic Campaign from Kingdoms but with all the features of Stainless Steel that you love (and none of the bad bits from vanilla that you hate). Experience the battle for the baltic on a close, personal level. Unlike vanilla, all factions on the map will be playable. Will include special events such as the Hanseatic League and Crusading Nobles. The Kalmar Union, however, will not be included due to faction limits.
    My dream is about to come true...

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Battle for the Baltic v2.0

    This is really amazing! thank you! i hope to play it soon!

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    is it possible to know how much has been done? like a progress report for we simple forum people


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