Ghibelline Total War (This mod is dead)

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

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We are currently looking for people for various roles such as
Mappers
Modelers
Texture Designers
Scripters
Coders
Artists
Researchers
And people to write descriptions and/or research.

If you want to join the mod then feel free to post here,pm me, or drop me a profile message.


The Guelphs and Ghibellines were factions supporting, respectively, the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor in central and northern Italy during the 12th and 13th centuries. The struggle for power between the Papacy and the Holy Roman Empire had arisen with the Investiture Conflict of the 11th century. I would like a mod simulating these conflicts.

If you need any information here is a wikipedia page. if you have any questions please ask me. I have only basic modding skills but I will do what I can if I can get someone to help me out.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelf

thank you

Here is a preview of the Florence faction symbol.




Main Ghibelline Cities

Arezzo
Cremona
Forlì
Modena
Osimo
Pisa
Pistoia
Siena
Spoleto
Todi


Main Guelf Cities

Bologna
Brescia
Crema
Genoa
Lodi
Mantua
Orvieto
Perugia


Variable adherence cities

Bergamo
Ferrara
Florence
Lucca
Milan
Padua
Parma
Piacenza
Treviso
Verona
Vicenza

Maybe have relation bonus with nations of same affiliation? Maybe use Guelf and Ghibelline instead of religion? Anyone have ideas?

Team Members.

Slurricane- Leader + Coding + Artwork
Forlornhope- Research
PubliusKhannus- Research

Please take the time to see the awesome WIP mod for Rome: BI (Spartacus: Total War) http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=230286

[hitokiri2486]

guelf and ghibelline? that'll be pretty hard to mod...things got pretty messed up in northern italy, and since they were essentially political parties with a presence in most major cities, it'll be difficult to represent that on a M2TW map. good luck with this.

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

Yeah you are probably right about that..I think it would be possible because there were some cities that were almost exclusivly part of one or the other..

[jimmy spong]

ahhhh

romeo and juliet

sounds interesting

about mapping , damm i must visit twc wiki again

i shall think about it

[jimmy spong]

i think that better idea would be italian states , but very detailed one and northern part of italy

including ,genoa , tuscany (or florence) , pisa , holy roman empire (present in lombardy) , modena , venice , papal states (playable one) , siena , ferrara , mantoa

but imagine how much units would have to be created

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

i think that better idea would be italian states , but very detailed one and northern part of italy

including ,genoa , tuscany (or florence) , pisa , holy roman empire (present in lombardy) , modena , venice , papal states (playable one) , siena , ferrara , mantoa

but imagine how much units would have to be created

Hmm...Interesting but my vision was Assassinations and Betrayals between the different factions. The emperor trying to take out the pope etc etc. And Florence is neccesary because it was were it all started

As for units..ya we can't just have everyone with Italian spear militia

[jimmy spong]

lets be honest , people want units

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

lets be honest , people want units

How to get support...Give away free beer?

[Nakharar]

this mod can be so easy, learn coding(easy), mapping(relativly easy) and get photoshop and open B.Wards Knight Templates or templates so you can easily skin...

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

this mod can be so easy, learn coding(easy), mapping(relativly easy) and get photoshop and open B.Wards Knight Templates or templates so you can easily skin...

I can code and kinda skin (Low Quality though)

[Nakharar]

if you have photoshop you can use B.Wards templates

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

if you have photoshop you can use B.Wards templates

I have Photoshop and Paint.net. I prefer PDN are they for Photoshop only? And could you please give me a link or something? Thank you

[Nakharar]

ok i will get you off the ground, first please take this advice a realistic target,

-First Version of Mod: Just Units , custom battles

since you dont have milkshape just skin using these

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=816

it explains it all too

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for coding there are many tutorials here

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1015

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

ok i will get you off the ground, first please take this advice a realistic target,

-First Version of Mod: Just Units , custom battles

since you dont have milkshape just skin using these

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=816

it explains it all too

---



for coding there are many tutorials here

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1015

These will be very useful, I have milkshape but I usually use Softimage.

Thank You very much
Chris Olaf

[Yojimbo]

i am joining this mod, my first attempt at joining a mod team as a writer/resercher.

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

i am joining this mod, my first attempt at joining a mod team as a writer/resercher.

And hopefully your first successful time as well. Welcome to the team.

[hitokiri2486]

I'm glad to see that you've started building a small team.

Out of curiosity, what is the scope of this mod? For example, in the 13th century we see Charles of Anjou crush the last of the Hohenstaufen as a Papal ally and take control of Sicily and Southern Italy, and constant harassment of northern Italy by both himself and his French allies. And on the other hand, you also have the Aragonese who invade Sicily and southern Italy after the Sicilian Vespers. Are you going to try to script these sorts of events in? Will other factions like the Angevins and Aragonese be included?

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

I'm glad to see that you've started building a small team.

Out of curiosity, what is the scope of this mod? For example, in the 13th century we see Charles of Anjou crush the last of the Hohenstaufen as a Papal ally and take control of Sicily and Southern Italy, and constant harassment of northern Italy by both himself and his French allies. And on the other hand, you also have the Aragonese who invade Sicily and southern Italy after the Sicilian Vespers. Are you going to try to script these sorts of events in? Will other factions like the Angevins and Aragonese be included?

Well I am going to try to script these things.(or find someone else more experienced who can) We are currently debating the map.We may or may not have all of Italy. I think Anjou and Aragon could be Emergent factions. You seem to have alot of information about this, maybe you could help us out with research? I know alot but not everything

[hitokiri2486]

Hey, I got your PM. To be honest, I have very little familiarity with the Guelf/Ghibelline conflict beyond their involvement with the Angevins and Sicily during the late 13th century. Other than that, I know just about nothing...and even then, what I do know tends to be general historical events, I can't tell you what the armies were like, how they dressed, what weapons they used, etc., etc.

Still, if you just want some general history for a relatively narrow time period, I'd be more than happy to write up a little summary with some key events and figures...but anything more than that is beyond me.

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

Hey, I got your PM. To be honest, I have very little familiarity with the Guelf/Ghibelline conflict beyond their involvement with the Angevins and Sicily during the late 13th century. Other than that, I know just about nothing...and even then, what I do know tends to be general historical events, I can't tell you what the armies were like, how they dressed, what weapons they used, etc., etc.

Still, if you just want some general history for a relatively narrow time period, I'd be more than happy to write up a little summary with some key events and figures...but anything more than that is beyond me.

If you could do that anything would be helpful