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    Default Religion: Is it Dangerous?

    Of all the wars and various atrocities comitted throughout history, many of the worst and bloodiest were done in the name of religion. Your thoughts:
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    And religion is a tool.

    Leaders use brainwashed people to rally against the infidel.

    Same goes for nationalism etc.

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    Yes. xtremely dangerous. They should all be abolished.

    Except buddhism. We should all be buddhists. No, Im not buddhist.

    People claim that religion helps more than it hinders, but if you look at the world today, and throughout time, it has constantly harmed. Sure it helps a lot, but it gave too many people reasons and excuses to do things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manoflooks View Post
    Yes. xtremely dangerous. They should all be abolished.Except buddhism. We should all be buddhists. No, Im not buddhist.
    So every religion should be abolished except Buddhism. Why would you keep Buddhism and eradicate all other religions, care to elaborate on that??
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    Default Re: Religion: Is it Dangerous?

    The frequency of threads like these only shows that atheism is dangerous and intolerant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    The frequency of threads like these only shows that atheism is dangerous and intolerant.

    Atheism has nothing to do with it. You can be a full on christian and believe that religion in general can be dangerous. You wouldnt think religion was bad, just dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    The frequency of threads like these only shows that atheism is dangerous and intolerant.
    I'd go a step further and say humans instead of atheism or religion. Either question seems stupid when I look at this one:

    "Humanity: Is it dangerous?"

    I don't think it matters much how people justify doing what they want, they'll do it anyway.

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    Religion is just one of many tools used by evil people. If it didn't exist, they'd just find another one.

    Religion itself is not intrinsically dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji View Post
    I'd go a step further and say humans instead of atheism or religion. Either question seems stupid when I look at this one:

    "Humanity: Is it dangerous?"

    I don't think it matters much how people justify doing what they want, they'll do it anyway.
    Absolutely correct. But in history there are trends, and it is far more likely that atheists will slaughter religious people today, than the other way around, so circumstantially, as of now, atheism is more dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    But in history there are trends, and it is far more likely that atheists will slaughter religious people today, than the other way around, so circumstantially, as of now, atheism is more dangerous.
    Blimey, that's quite a claim. Do we have any sources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    , and it is far more likely that atheists will slaughter religious people today, than the other way around, so circumstantially, as of now, atheism is more dangerous.
    Thats far opposite of the truth. How can an ideology that shuns religion and fanatacism be more dangerous than an ideology that uses mind control and emotional fervor to accomplish its aims?
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    The frequency of threads like these only shows that atheism is dangerous and intolerant.
    What? Am I supposed to be nice to those who tell we must live under a !@#$% lord and we would go to hell if we don't follow his guide? Their god is, as they have described by themselves, dangerous and intolerant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    Of all the wars and various atrocities comitted throughout history, many of the worst and bloodiest were done in the name of religion. Your thoughts:
    Religion in itself isn't dangerous. Essentially what it does is speak to people's gullibility and naieveté.

    As it happens, gullibility and naieveté are the prime tools for would-be-dictators and powermongers to abuse when they want to win over a crowd. So religion automatically comes in handy.

    That in itself leads me to vote yes. While I completely recognise that religion may be a very good and powerful thing on a personal level and that it has enriched the lifes of many people, but in the end it's too prone to abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Religion in itself isn't dangerous. Essentially what it does is speak to people's gullibility and naieveté.

    As it happens, gullibility and naieveté are the prime tools for would-be-dictators and powermongers to abuse when they want to win over a crowd. So religion automatically comes in handy.
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    these "prime tools" you speak of are among the fundamental tactics that religion uses to push its agenda, recruit new members, and control those within it.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Default Re: Religion: Is it Dangerous?

    The frequency of threads like these only shows that atheism is dangerous and intolerant.
    Yes, trying to have a discussion about wether or not something is dangerous is, in itself dangerous and intolerant. Let's never discuss anything like this ever again ever.


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    well it just shows an unhealthy fixation on something that should be below your intellectual pursuits.

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    I'd say it can be dangerous, if it's used in the wrong way by the wrong kind of people. But you could apply that to almost anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helm View Post
    I'd say it can be dangerous, if it's used in the wrong way by the wrong kind of people. But you could apply that to almost anything.
    yes, but religion is more unifying and potent than "almost anything." Thats why leaders throughout history have used it to unify their subjects/followers toward a common purpose.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio_Italica View Post
    yes, but religion is more unifying and potent than "almost anything." Thats why leaders throughout history have used it to unify their subjects/followers toward a common purpose.
    Really Stalin and Moa did? Robespierre did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljan Arslan View Post
    Really Stalin and Moa did? Robespierre did?

    Yes. All great modern dictators have set up their own state religion, even the commie ones. They would usually create a religion where the state (ie the dictator) was god. often the given dictator would use rallies and public demonstrations as "church services" at which he could fill the minds of his subjects with propaganda. Stalin is perhaps one of the masters of this tecnique. When asked by his son why his son couldnt take the name Stalin, Stalin answered fervently: "I am Stalin, because I am the state! Stalin is Soviet power, Stalin is the State!" This perhaps embodies the aim of every great dictator. When u can make the populace utterly and unfailingly devoted to u, when u can merge urself w/ the state, u can do whatever u want, and there will be no consequences from within.
    Of these facts there cannot be any shadow of doubt: for instance, that civil society was renovated in every part by Christian institutions; that in the strength of that renewal the human race was lifted up to better things-nay, that it was brought back from death to life, and to so excellent a life that nothing more perfect had been known before, or will come to be known in the ages that have yet to be. - Pope Leo XIII

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