Who Should Pay for The reconstruction of Gaza.

[magpie]

Hi all, just thought I would start a little debate on the above topic.
Many of the buildings in Gaza have been trashed, due to the recent conflict.
Were will the money come from to rebuild the infrastructure and homes of Gaza.?
Who should donate to the rebuild?
My personal opinion is that Israel should donate the lions share to rebuilding the homes destroyed ect.
Money could be allocated from the defence budget, after all, all armies have to maintain their fireing and target practice ranges.
regards magpie.

[Treize]

Israel, they trashed the place, but DON'T ask Europe for money, it's not our bussines....

[Mikelus Trento]

Israel, they trashed the place, but DON'T ask Europe for money, it's not our bussines....

Wonderful. Europe had the most significant part in the creation of Israel, and the place where the Jews suffered Hitler's genocide, with the citizens of many countries other than Germany helping in their identification.

And now they wish to wash their hands of that which they gave birth to??


Ahahahaha nice try, but you won't get the blood off your hands that easily I'm afraid.

[Panzerbear]

Wonderful. Europe had the most significant part in the creation of Israel, and the place where the Jews suffered Hitler's genocide, with the citizens of many countries other than Germany helping in their identification.

what is with your absolutely maniacal attempts at relating everything that Israel did, does or will do in the future to Holocaust?

Ahahahaha nice try, but you won't get the blood off your hands that easily I'm afraid.

so yes, Israel drowns its neighbors in blood today and Europe is the rightful bearer of the responsibility simply because one nation's leader decided to kill off a bunch of jews in the first half of 20th century?

brilliant logic!

[Mikelus Trento]

what is with your absolutely maniacal attempts at relating everything that Israel did, does or will do in the future to Holocaust?



so yes, Israel drowns its neighbors in blood today and Europe is the rightful bearer of the responsibility simply because one nation's leader decided to kill off a bunch of jews in the first half of 20th century?

brilliant logic!

So you think the holocaust doesn;t play a role in Israel's past, present, and future actions? Interesting. Do you also deny the holocaust happened too?
Have you ever been a survivor when 6 million of your fellows were murdered?

If you had taken the time to read my post, Europe's responsibility is due to their role in setting up the mess that is the Holy Land after WWII, and the fact that many citizens of European countries other than Germany helped in the roundup of the Jews.

Unless you want to say that didn't happen also.

You are aware that there are MANY people alive in the world today who were present during WWII, so despite your attempts to portray it as ancient history,just because you weren't around for it, doesnt make it so.

[Ishoss]

So you think the holocaust doesn;t play a role in Israel's past, present, and future actions? Interesting. Do you also deny the holocaust happened too?
Have you ever been a survivor when 6 million of your fellows were murdered?

If you had taken the time to read my post, Europe's responsibility is due to their role in setting up the mess that is the Holy Land after WWII, and the fact that many citizens of European countries other than Germany helped in the roundup of the Jews.

Unless you want to say that didn't happen also.

You are aware that there are MANY people alive in the world today who were present during WWII, so despite your attempts to portray it as ancient history,just because you weren't around for it, doesnt make it so.

Norway's guilty for a nation down south's action? It's Europe's fault that some wackjob was born here 100 years ago?

That's weird.

PS: When will America pay the native Americans for killing off most of them? (Would be just as stupid)

[Von Reichgraf]

So you think the holocaust doesn;t play a role in Israel's past, present, and future actions? Interesting. Do you also deny the holocaust happened too?
Have you ever been a survivor when 6 million of your fellows were murdered?

If you had taken the time to read my post, Europe's responsibility is due to their role in setting up the mess that is the Holy Land after WWII, and the fact that many citizens of European countries other than Germany helped in the roundup of the Jews.

Unless you want to say that didn't happen also.

You are aware that there are MANY people alive in the world today who were present during WWII, so despite your attempts to portray it as ancient history,just because you weren't around for it, doesnt make it so.

IBM helped tracking jews by supplying the nazis with punchcard databases, and unlike european nations neither apologized or hanged their worst culprits, let's go scream at them for money. collectively guilt-tripping entire nations based on the actions of an extreme minority two generations ago, especially to counter much more recent brutalities is a deplorable tactic imo (<-not claiming that you do, btw).

I could be persuaded to foot some more blame on europe and britain if it weren't for the fact that many jews were hell-bent on getting their holy land way before the holocaust, and basically had to kill the british off their land to do so.

If the British really were demanded to fix their folly from back yonder paying for their unruly childs fits of rage would not be the correct action. Making Palestine a mandate again, shipping the immigrant jews back off to central europe and giving the land back the Turks would be the only way to rectify their ups.. Somehow i doubt that would go over so well.

Israel could, to show some benevolence to the palestinian civilians and split the bill with the arabs (who also need to show they actuallu give a about their 'brethren'). you can ofcourse refuse to pay a dime because hamas is to blame, which is correct in itself, but it still makes you a douche..

[Panzerbear]

Israel of course, but let me guess, in reality it will be the good old Europe, Arabs and different NGOs which will provide the funding...

I would also love to see Obama's position on this whole subject. bail out Palestine !

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

Israel of course, but let me guess, in reality it will be the good old Europe, Arabs and different NGOs which will provide the funding...

I would also love to see Obama's position on this whole subject. bail out Palestine !

In my opinion it does not matter who is wrong or right in this conflict it is about ending it. I am not an Israel lover but would it not be better to end the conflict at any cost?

[Gaidin]

Let's start taking donations at the local church and see where that leads.

[Panzerbear]

Let's start taking donations at the local church and see where that leads.

or, even better, send the checks to my address .

on a more serious note, the IDF will immediately accuse you of sponsoring terrorists .

[fieldmarshal]

on a more serious note, the IDF will immediately accuse you of sponsoring terrorists .

Considering that most aid money goes directly into the hands of corrupt groups like Hamas and Fatah, i wouldn't blame them. There needs to be a better way to give aid.

[Panzerbear]

Considering that most aid money goes directly into the hands of corrupt groups like Hamas and Fatah, i wouldn't blame them. There needs to be a better way to give aid.

sure. lets start our own construction company in Palestine .

we would still probably need to give some cash to Hamas under the table "for protection", but oh well, thats the rules of the game...

[fieldmarshal]

sure. lets start our own construction company in Palestine .

We should, there is plenty of opportunities...look at all the things that need to be re built

[jankren]

Considering that most aid money goes directly into the hands of corrupt groups like Hamas and Fatah, i wouldn't blame them. There needs to be a better way to give aid.

Pfffttt ... most international aids to Palestine go to NGOs.

palestinians can try to spend less money in rockets and use it to rebuild gaza.
if that doesnt work well,,, thats life.

Dont be stupid. Palestinians dont have money.

Anyway, I think Hezbollah should take over Palestine. They are significantly much better at fighting and rebuilding. LOL

Hamas sucks balls!

[fieldmarshal]

Pfffttt ... most international aids to Palestine go to NGOs.

Yes they do go to NGO's, but once they enter Palestine, who controls it and distributes it other than a few UN, and non profit orgs. Most of it goes to the Palestinian govt since they can just take it, and its pretty clear what they are spending it on.

[Nikitn]

Considering that most aid money goes directly into the hands of corrupt groups like Hamas and Fatah, i wouldn't blame them. There needs to be a better way to give aid.

Hamas is a major funder of schools, hospitals, Mosques etc. And they are certainly better then IDF..

[Trey]

Hamas is a major funder of schools, hospitals, Mosques etc. And they are certainly better then IDF..

Not really. Just less effective.

To compare the two doesn't really work either, the IDF is the military of Israel, Hamas is a multifaceted political organization that doesn't have a correlation to normal governments.

[Gaidin]

on a more serious note, the IDF will immediately accuse you of sponsoring terrorists .

So? What are they gonna do? Bush isn't president anymore so his rendition policies ain't exactly gonna be in affect. To top it off, I don't plan on going to Israel anytime in the next 50 years.

[Ishoss]

Israel should. It would be the best for both parts. Israel gets goodwill from the people of Gaza, thus lessening the chances of a new group like Hamas rising to power.

It's good for Palestine, obviously.