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    The Sun Barely one week after the Sun paid some charlatan £££s for an entirely made up story we have this Epic Fail.

    "ANTI-TERROR bosses last night hailed their latest ally in the war on terror — the BLACK DEATH.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2146286.ece

    At least 40 al-Qaeda fanatics died horribly after being struck down with the disease that devastated Europe in the Middle Ages.

    The killer bug, also known as the plague, swept through insurgents training at a forest camp in Algeria, North Africa. It came to light when security forces found a body by a roadside.

    The victim was a terrorist in AQLIM (al-Qaeda in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb), the largest and most powerful al-Qaeda group outside the Middle East.

    It trains Muslim fighters to kill British and US troops.

    A source said: “The emirs (leaders) fear surviving terrorists will surrender to escape a horrible death.”


    Now al-Qaeda chiefs fear the plague has been passed to other terror cells — or Taliban fighters in Afghanistan. "



    One body yet an entire cell is deemed wiped out without any evidence to back that up.

    Plague is endemic in the remoter areas of Algeria, I note

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3056921.stm.

    But it is the 21st century, you would be considered unfortunate to die from it what with antibiotics and what have you. As the Sun points out, the disease has an incubation period of 2 to 6 days. Far from having no tell-tale signs,as the sun suggests, symptons include fever, headache, malaise, and weakness,l lymphadenopathy measuring up to 10 cm, Commonly in the groin, followed by the axillary and cervical lymph nodes,sleep disturbance, vertigo, and loss of memory. Weakness, delirium and stupor may also occur, due to the effects of endotoxins on the brain. I might notice at least one of those symptoms let alone all of them, so there is plenty of warning before one risks entering the afterlife, so how could 40 people die simultaneously? Nonsense. The average person would seek medical help well before it was too late.

    “It spreads quickly and kills within hours. This will be really worrying al-Qaeda.”

    No it doesn't , as the Sun says it has an incubation time of 2-6 days, be consistent. Only the variant form Pneumonic Plague induces rapid morbidity.But it has an infection rate of 8%, reasonable odds I would suggest. 40 in one go would be unprecedented. The disease is usually associated with infected cats.

    (Link to recent case in US)

    This leads on to the next story, the cell has weaponised the plague. Some plnker has allegedly told the Sun this without so much a detailed analysis.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2150050.ece

    This is a task whick quite frankly is beyond the capacity of the United States to produce in first class laboratories, so how does one expect some ill equiped peasants in a wood to do so? (I know the USSR did so). A bubonic plague weapon would be the lamest weapon on Earth. all you need is 3-6 days to find some antibiotics and you would have a terrorist attack with zero victims. I suggest that a C4 charge would be more devastating and lethal.


    Now to the title of the thread.

    "Now al-Qaeda chiefs fear the plague has been passed to other terror cells — or Taliban fighters in Afghanistan."

    The bubonic plague is transmitted by fleas, who live on infected rats. To infect Taliban fighters in Afghanistan they would have to travel somewhere short of 6000km I can't see this happening unless the fleas, or their hosts sprout wings and they acquire the ability to distinguish between terrorists, the general population and NATO troops. Evolution doesn't work that way. A carrier of the airborne version would be dead or infirm before reaching Kabul, presuming that wanted terrorists are allow to board aircraft in Algeria with dead cats as hand luggage.

    Question is this. Is the Sun now seen as a soft touch for those wanting to sell lame WOT stories for cash, or is something going on here?
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    You know there's something wrong with this country when The Sun is the best-selling newspaper. And I got a feeling it's not only for the breasts.


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    Almost all that article was BS. Seriously there should be some law addressing this crapola.

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    people want easy reading and light entertainment. exciting stories are awesome, truth be damned!

    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    Almost all that article was BS. Seriously there should be some law addressing this crapola.
    I call it the law of common sence and media awareness. don't read the sun.

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    well unless you like silicone.
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    I... did a piece of contract work for the Sun back in 88.

    They were actually a reputable publication back then... before the whole boobs on page 3 schtick.

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    The Sun is just ahead of the curve on the 'sensationalist bs' evolution all media outlets are going through. The two largest newspapeps over here, both with a century+ of actual printworthy news under their belt are both slowly turning into sleazy tabloids of zero integrity..

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    If you go look at the Press Complaints Commission website you'll see case after case being brought against every newspaper in the UK for misrepresentation and innaccuracy. And its not just the tabloids, the reputable broadsheets Guardian/Times etc are all well represented.

    I don't know if the print media even bother with reporters on the spot now or if they just copy anything they can find from news agencies, blogs, or the net.

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    If you introduced infected fleas into a third world village you would see some interesting results.

    The Plague was the first biological weapon used in war.

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    you'd see terrible results, but tbh a bunch of guys with AK's would be just as terrible in that scenario, and easier to get hold of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshireman View Post
    If you go look at the Press Complaints Commission website you'll see case after case being brought against every newspaper in the UK for misrepresentation and innaccuracy. And its not just the tabloids, the reputable broadsheets Guardian/Times etc are all well represented.

    I don't know if the print media even bother with reporters on the spot now or if they just copy anything they can find from news agencies, blogs, or the net.

    You have a point. The Guardian printed the Alan Sugar story too, but at least they had good grace to publish the critical comments, and fair play to the Telegraph who saw through it. The Independent brought up the British Muslim terrorists in Mumbai, a total crock seeing that they were all Pakistani insurgents- no apology given either.

    The Sun is getting particularly sloppy though. My view is that so-called experts see the paper as a soft touch who will give you £££s for any old rubbish. And if the Sun gets ripped off no matter, they pull the plug and no-one is supposed to notice.
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    Shock News Story

    Crap paper contains false stories!!!
    In other news:

    -Pope contains Catholicism - we investigate!
    -Woods contain defecation of bears, shock probe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Super Pope View Post
    Shock News Story

    Crap paper contains false stories!!!
    In other news:

    -Pope contains Catholicism - we investigate!
    -Woods contain defecation of bears, shock probe!
    I wish the news was confined to the Sun but google and you will see that the story, crap as it is, has spread, well like a plague. This stuff encourages neo-cons and gives encouragement for others to generate even more shite.
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    i love the sun, just because it's SO BAD! lol. amazing.

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    That was one funny artice, there!

    I suppose it's meant in a humorous way? :S
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    Usually Tabloids mix lies with truth.

    They learned the technique from politicians.

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    As always the truth emerges just after the story is debunked.


    http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20090204_7110.php
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    I don't understand. The Washington Post interviewed people at the DOD who reinforced the Sun story. However just for accuracy, it was a WP blurb that was about a paragraph long, then the Sun ran a full story. Later the WP ran their own full story after talking with their sources.

    Nobody at the DOD mentioned the plague specifically. They simply mentioned that a successful camp in Algeria was vacated overnight. And communications intercepts strongly reinforced the notion that a bio hazard accident had taken place there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    I don't understand. The Washington Post interviewed people at the DOD who reinforced the Sun story. However just for accuracy, it was a WP blurb that was about a paragraph long, then the Sun ran a full story. Later the WP ran their own full story after talking with their sources.

    Nobody at the DOD mentioned the plague specifically. They simply mentioned that a successful camp in Algeria was vacated overnight. And communications intercepts strongly reinforced the notion that a bio hazard accident had taken place there.

    thats it
    A genuine bio-hazard incident would have have received more attention and a more professional briefing would have been provided. This is an amateur attempt at psy-ops. Only the gullible took the bait.
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    Heh, the now deceased Super Pope spoke all the truth on this subject. This kind of tabloid is only there for the boobs, really; all the rest is just filler.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

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