Retarded AI

**apostolosm** · January 19, 2009, 04:25 AM

Hi! I have been enjoying this mod for about a month now and tried both open beta 3 5.8 and 5.74. 5.74 crashed alot but 5.8 beta is very stable.

My main grippe is the Ai on campaign map.

Most times the AI sieges me for about 2-3 turns and then forfeits the siege..

I am playing hard difficulty...

Any one else expereincing this.?

THX

**Brips** · January 19, 2009, 04:27 AM

Sometimes with the rebels, we gonna say "never with factions". The rebels goal is to weaken me.

**Gaias** · January 19, 2009, 05:58 AM

Well considering how poorly the AI does at siege warfare I would consider yourself lucky.

I personally do not like siege warfare as the AI tends to perform rather poorly and at best, a decent fight in open battle.

**ivanhoex** · January 19, 2009, 10:23 AM

i remember when in the past this happened a lot... i dont know if it was fixed and this is because of an AI error or it is something that cannot be fixed and therefore the solution presented in early days will help you, but this was it:

-AI wont keep a good track of its desitions between savegames.
meaning if you want coherent ai behavior, just do not reload the game every 2-3 years.

**Aeon`** · January 19, 2009, 10:52 AM

I would like to have an ai that's able to siege with multiple armies, though.

Crusades e.g. are a terrible joke.

**Brips** · January 19, 2009, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by ivanhoex

i remember when in the past this happened a lot... i dont know if it was fixed and this is because of an AI error or it is something that cannot be fixed and therefore the solution presented in early days will help you, but this was it:

-AI wont keep a good track of its desitions between savegames.
meaning if you want coherent ai behavior, just do not reload the game every 2-3 years.

Thanks for this tips!

**Taiji** · January 19, 2009, 11:08 AM

@Apostolosm, Never played on hard. Try VH instead, it doesn't happen in my games which are all on VH.

@Aeon, what happens to make you say it's a joke?

**Aeon`** · January 19, 2009, 11:28 AM

When the settlement is well garrisoned, the ai won't siege it, even if they stand there for a century.
I haven't seen a successful crusade in late campaigns for some time.

**apostolosm** · January 19, 2009, 11:41 AM

Yeah I will, however, it is the third campaign i start , it is tough to start all over again

**Taiji** · January 19, 2009, 11:43 AM

@Aeon, Oh, that sounds bad

**CelticPagan** · January 22, 2009, 03:59 AM

I have to agree with Aeon 100%. The passive AI is horrible, and they also give little challenge on the battlefield, even on VH/VH settings. The rebel armies that spawn at the start of the game don't do anything except stand around, even in DLV 6. They don't even cause disruption (as usually indicated by the blackening of the area on the strat map).

Plus those rebels in the forts are hindered by the following traits - Immobile and the one that makes them ill, so they never venture from the forts to scavenge/pillage. Additionally, if the fort is in a province your faction owns, a single unit can defeat the fort's garrison in 3 turns with out fear of them sallying forth. Good if I want a family member or General to gain turns campaigning with an assured battle win, but very bad for immersion into the RP part of DLV.

Taiji, I know you are working hard to fix/improve DLV, so would you please place AI improvements on your (I presume very long) list of "to do" projects?

Thanks!