suggestion

**z32236** · January 17, 2009, 03:51 PM

I read the history of rome republic and find that in BC215 there are still some other families in rome, who is as strong as Julius, such as Sebia who defeated Hanibal and Cathage eventually. But in SPQR, there is only Juliu's family.

**franks_tank** · January 17, 2009, 03:57 PM

What's your point?

**franks_tank** · January 23, 2009, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by franks_tank

What's your point?

I am repeating myself, I know...gladly there seem to be others like czePowerslave who learned stuff like that at school and don't split hairs...this is a great mod THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BE 100% ACCURATE...create your own if you like to fail

**z32236** · January 17, 2009, 04:20 PM

My point is there is not only Julius family in Rome republic from 215BC. Am I clear?

**franks_tank** · January 17, 2009, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by z32236

My point is there is not only Julius family in Rome republic from 215BC. Am I clear?

yeah...like in vanilla...they rocked huh?...what's your point?

**Hesus de bodemloze** · January 17, 2009, 04:22 PM

creating other families mean creating other factions i think.

**czePowerslave** · January 17, 2009, 04:48 PM

Well, to explain a bit - in SPQR there is single Roman faction and Senate. Other two factions have been remade into different other nations. As you can hear when general speaks before battle, he can call like rebels the Scipii or whatever. I hope you get the point, they are simply not there because there are other nations instead. End of story

**Ejergard** · January 17, 2009, 05:55 PM

See it as you are playing for the combined republic (or later empire). You will however have your civil war later on

**Raglan** · January 17, 2009, 07:33 PM

i know the scipios were made into the rebel rome but what happened to the brutii?

**czePowerslave** · January 18, 2009, 01:29 AM

Maybe they are some hidden nation as well, havent come across them yet

**lt1956** · January 18, 2009, 02:25 AM

I made one Rome for a reason, it was TOO easy for the player with 3 factions, also the AI handles the Romans Horribly, I had to change a few things for the Roman Rebels to make them a challenge in Civil war.

As to Names I tried to change names to Romans etc. but you speak of the actual names of the Generals. well someone made a small mod that changed the names to Random Roman names which is about the best you can do with the mod as it is.

The Brutii are Gone and there was no need for them. Sometimes you can have too Many Factions and not enough Provinces. In SPQR a faction really Needs about 9+ Province to support their armies and building Projects at first.

I hope this answers the question? I know Julii wasnt anything really until Caesar came along.

**Hesus de bodemloze** · January 18, 2009, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by lt1956

I know Julii wasnt anything really until Caesar came along.

They where at the start of the republic. But thy lost there fame thru the years. I am reading Livius - sons of rome and the name julii is mensiond a few times with positions as consuls and so on. Time line is more in the 400 - 500 B.C.

**czePowerslave** · January 18, 2009, 01:22 PM

The 9 province is a nice thing to know

That is a one huge spoiler

**The Forgotten King** · January 22, 2009, 07:11 PM

it could be possible creating it in the begining u have the julli as your faction leader but also have your two daughters married to one of the other families of rome such as scipii to give it some historical accruacy so flavius faction leader he has 2 sons 2 daughters those two daughters are married off to one scipio member with a young son and the other married off to a brutii with a son so the line doesnt go extinct right at the begining of the game. only thing is you would need to change the leader of the roman rebels and have people start a new campaign but it is a minor suggestion which i would support to have

**czePowerslave** · January 23, 2009, 02:05 PM

How does it affect gameplay, besides being again closer to historical accuracy?

**czePowerslave** · January 23, 2009, 03:29 PM

Exactly. Historical inaccuracies are in the game in order to pursue higher gameplay value. If anyone wants to have historically ACCURATE mod, then I wish them good luck as completely implementing all that stuff with regard to history is near to impossible. Yet, anyone is free to try

**Raglan** · January 23, 2009, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by czePowerslave

Exactly. Historical inaccuracies are in the game in order to pursue higher gameplay value. If anyone wants to have historically ACCURATE mod, then I wish them good luck as completely implementing all that stuff with regard to history is near to impossible. Yet, anyone is free to try

another thing to think about is its only possible to make the start accurate because after that the ai or player will start making ahistoric moves

**franks_tank** · January 23, 2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by LordRaglan

another thing to think about is its only possible to make the start accurate because after that the ai or player will start making ahistoric moves

and that's the whole beauty of it..end of sentence

**Shi Huangdi** · January 23, 2009, 03:59 PM

I think the way the mod is done is best--it allows for a Roman civil war between Julii and Senate (which is historically accurate), and at the same time it allows the player to control all of Rome at once.