Pope not dead, all Catholic cities taken though...

**foolfromhell** · January 17, 2009, 11:04 AM

The only remaining catholic factions in my game are 2 stacks of papal states im nnot at war with and some teutons in Lithuania, hiding in the forest, whom I cannot find. The Teutons are so rich, like 150k, since for 70turns+ . they havent spent a single florin.

A. How do I elimiate Papal States?

B. How do I find the Teutons and destroy them?

side note, Lithuania still alive, but they're my ally.

**Tacitursa** · January 17, 2009, 11:15 AM

A. How do I elimiate Papal States?

B. How do I find the Teutons and destroy them?

A. You cant there is always a new pope elected.

B. You have to assasinate all of there agents diplomats , spys , merchants etc

**Mike13531** · January 17, 2009, 01:37 PM

that's problematic, there should be a way to destroy the pope's country once and for all. Personally i'm not one for popes, i mean, man, they are elected by a bunch of kings... nothing but a political tool, even now, they are nothing. They are not even chosen by god.

There should be a way to kill them off for good if all the cathlic factions are dead...

**Tacitursa** · January 17, 2009, 02:18 PM

The only way to remove the pope is to remove the religion neither has any chance of happening both in game or real life.

**foolfromhell** · January 17, 2009, 04:22 PM

Well, there isnt a single catholic faction in the game left and the papal states has 2 stacks running around italy with no city. The pope himself is in some forest, hiding and the teutons are in some forest, hiding. I need to destroy teutons, i reckon. How do I do that? How do I search all the forests in Lithuania?

**Nightbringer** · January 17, 2009, 04:27 PM

actually, you cant destroy the teutons, they dont have a lose condition, it is very lame, and something that could be easily fixed

**Caesar Clivus** · January 17, 2009, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

actually, you cant destroy the teutons, they dont have a lose condition, it is very lame, and something that could be easily fixed

It's a bug in M2TW to do with factions set to horde. As far as I know it can't be fixed.

**foolfromhell** · January 17, 2009, 04:33 PM

wait, so to defeat pope, destroy all Catholics, but you cant defeat teutons? thats retarded. Might as well just kill these two stacks roaming around Italy.

**Tacitursa** · January 17, 2009, 05:16 PM

Well, there isnt a single catholic faction in the game left and the papal states has 2 stacks running around italy with no city. The pope himself is in some forest, hiding and the teutons are in some forest, hiding. I need to destroy teutons, i reckon. How do I do that? How do I search all the forests in Lithuania?

There might be no catholic faction but there is defonately some catholic people left in the population and removing them will be impossible

**foolfromhell** · January 17, 2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Wizav85

There might be no catholic faction but there is defonately some catholic people left in the population and removing them will be impossible

Wait, wait, wait. Popes require priests to become cardinals then get elected. Without said priests, no pope, no Papal States, right?

**Cleitanious** · January 18, 2009, 06:25 AM

No, there is always going to be a Pope no matter what you do.

**Bobsters34** · January 18, 2009, 04:04 PM

Can't you just take over Rome?

**Caesar Clivus** · January 18, 2009, 05:49 PM

If you conquer Rome and all the papal states' territories, the pope (supposedly) will pop up in a random territory of a random catholic faction and I think the faction will give him the region too.

**Cleitanious** · January 18, 2009, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

If you conquer Rome and all the papal states' territories, the pope (supposedly) will pop up in a random territory of a random catholic faction and I think the faction will give him the region too.

Yes. The Pope Randomly took Rome from me right after I took Rome from Sicily.

**lordextra0** · January 18, 2009, 11:30 PM

does the city taking also occur when no catolic factions exist anymore and you are also not catolic faction?

**Cleitanious** · January 18, 2009, 11:41 PM

Probably, but if you're not Catholic you can't even view the "Pope" panel to see.

**lordextra0** · January 18, 2009, 11:48 PM

I usually have enough spies to pretty much well
see everything
quite usefull when you know what people around you are doing
I also usually build lots of watch towers so I should realize
has anyone actually tried this
cause if thre are only muslim fations it would seem illogical for them to give a province to the poe