How to make a testudo cover for the phalanx

**z32236** · January 17, 2009, 01:29 AM

I saw from the SPQR CG that the rome armies raise testudo to cover their head for arrow rain. How can I do it in the game? or just a CG?

**czePowerslave** · January 17, 2009, 02:04 AM

When you will reach Marius reforms, soldiers will have ability to form testudo. Then you can do it

**Hesus de bodemloze** · January 17, 2009, 03:24 AM

Only Republican, imperial and auxillia troops are able to make testudos.

**Raglan** · January 17, 2009, 04:02 AM

that movie was daft why were they forming a testudo when facing a gaul charge

it looked good but didnt make sence

**franks_tank** · January 17, 2009, 04:13 AM

I never use it except when attacking a city...the limited movement and the extreme vulnerability are not acceptable on the battlefield...it also takes too long to form and break the formation...it's good to approach walls but on an open field I'd rather rush to the enemy when attacking to limit their ability to fire lots of arrows and try to harass the enemies archers with my cav as soon as possible when defending...it's too risky on the open field in my opinion

**czePowerslave** · January 17, 2009, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by LordRaglan

that movie was daft why were they forming a testudo when facing a gaul charge

it looked good but didnt make sence

Its a movie

It looks great there, and who knows, maybe there were some Gaul missile units

**z32236** · January 17, 2009, 03:04 PM

I think in the history, there must be some reason for testudo. otherwise why roman create such a formation?

**czePowerslave** · January 17, 2009, 03:07 PM

Of course. Prevention from missile fire.

**Hesus de bodemloze** · January 17, 2009, 03:07 PM

Testudo was to protect there troops from missile fire that is the main reason. Thy used it at sieges, i am not sure thy used it in field battles.

**z32236** · January 17, 2009, 03:10 PM

Thanks, can you tell me how to trigger the Marius reform?

**czePowerslave** · January 17, 2009, 03:11 PM

Build imperial palaces in all Carthage original provinces I believe

**War lord** · January 17, 2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by czePowerslave

Build imperial palaces in all Carthage original provinces I believe

You need an IP palace in an Italn provance

**z32236** · January 17, 2009, 03:13 PM

Woo, must be not easy then.

**czePowerslave** · January 17, 2009, 03:34 PM

There have been numerous debates around this in threads here. I am not sure but I think the Carthage palaces are important. Palace anywhere was enough in 6.4. No longer that applies in 7.0

**franks_tank** · January 17, 2009, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by lt

5. Carthage must be destroyed and you must own their lands for Marius Reforms to take place.

from the readme...I just got back into my game yesterday and its 188 I think and I didn't even conquer iberia yet but building a palace in italy won't be a problem until I invade northern africa...I never heard a palace in carthage is needed for marius...quote lt if he said something else...haven't been on here quite some time

**czePowerslave** · January 18, 2009, 01:39 AM

I think in some threads, he mentions this need for Carthage provinces, although not sure if it applies to all original provinces or just few specific ones