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Patriotism... is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
Quebec doesn't need independence in the middle of the ongoing world economic crisis and already enjoys considerable autonomy in Canada anyway, and Ireland is already free...
English domination by the 1600s. Protestant English rule resulted in the marginalisation of the Catholic majority. A famine in the mid-1800s caused deaths and emigration. Following a war of independence, Ireland was split into: the independent Irish Free State and Northern Ireland, which remains a part of the United Kingdom. The Free State left the Commonwealth to become a Republic in 1949. In 1973 both parts of Ireland joined the European Economic Community. Sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland led to much unrest from the late 1960s until the 1990s, which subsided following a peace deal in 1998.
Yes irish is free but what was the cost ?
Patriotism... is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
The cost? Heavy, but worth it in the end (independence).
PS, I noticed you support the PLQ and the IRA...you are aware that they're terrorist groups (I think the IRA laid down its arms already tho, not sure about PLQ) right?
U mean FLQ . mean Front de Liberation du Quebec
They got owned wen trudeau declared matial law on us .
Probably there is some left but they never did anything after that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_d...du_Qu%C3%A9bec
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Patriotism... is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
IRA is labeled "Terrorist" by the brits, but was labeled liberators by the Irish (1917 independance was won by the IRA).
If you dont have the time to fully document yourself on the subject, the movie called "The wind that shakes the barley" by Ken Loach is quite interesting, as it relates not only to independance in itself, but on its motives and outcomes.
And what about Yucatan ?
He should document himself? I think you should realise, the distinct and absolute difference between the Irish Republican army of the 20's, and the Provisional IRA of the 60's-90's. The former were a militia and liberation movement, the latter were terrorists. Not linked in any way.
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Patriotism... is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
u should lisen to this beffore talking stupid many people died almost a genocide . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG_yjSSVjoc
Patriotism... is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
Should he? He's an actual Irishman from Ireland not someone from the other side of the Atlantic who gets their history from Youtube.
There has been reletive peace in Northern Ireland for 12 years, we don't need any foriegn IRA supporters who have no knowledge of the present day situation. Thank you.
Patriotism... is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
Dammit I hate this thread. I have now been compelled to agree with the Yorkshireman for the 3rd time this week!
Besides which, the IRA has dismantled it's arsenal and legal measures to prevent the funding of terrorism would immediately strangle Sinn Fein's coffers if ever the IRA get nostalgic for murder. If they have a problem with HM government they can always use harsh language.
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Poland fully support Irish independence from bloody english lords, my question is why it's taking so much time for you to kick and sink them back in sea???, now is your time, now they are weak as ever, because of the EU and this phlegmatic prime minister.
FIGHT!
I'M POLISH, I'M PROUD!
Patriotism... is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.