Halberds are useless.....

**Daxos232** · January 14, 2009, 09:52 PM

I just finished reading a chapter in "Warfare in the Medieval World" by Brian Todd Carey (good read by the way) I read about the battles of Mortarten 1315, Laupen 1339, and Sempach 1386. Halberds work great and I thought to try halberds in SS to see if they were better than in MTW2 So I tried them and after playing a couple custom battles I was rather surprised to find them useless.

So I did a couple one on one unit custom battles. With no upgrades for either unit in all tests, against militia spearmen they can just barely win, granted that they charge the spearmen. Other way around with them receiving the charge, the halberdeirs spearwall does nothing, they will lose 10-15 men in the charge with the attackers losing maybe 1 man. Thats ridiculous, that halberd formation looks deadly, anyone dumb enough to charge it should receive at least 10 to 15, 16 casualties.

Also if you match them against any kind of dismounted knight they do pitifully, despite having a armour piercing weapon thats designed to kill knights.

Against light armored seargents cavalry, at least the halberd spearwall takes out quite a few in the charge.

I think (IMO) that this should be looked into.

**Dewy** · January 14, 2009, 10:41 PM

It wasn't designed to kill knights its a moddfied farming tool. Bet yes you are right, i remember MTW the Halberds were a sweet weapon to have. Its the game engine even billmen suck but in MTW they were great just like the Halberds

**Hektor27** · January 14, 2009, 11:07 PM

True that halberds are under evaluated in SS as well as most other mods, but you can always change that. In my game, i just boost the attack stat of halberd units double or triple and see they cut through knights and horses alike.

**Gogolometro** · January 14, 2009, 11:46 PM

All halebards have +6 against cavalry.With all upgrades in citys who are easy to access in citys when get them they became very good defence atack/defence.Worl well both on walls and behind your gate.Are powerful in defence not in charge against all units but more particulary like I said against cavalry.Some halebards are powerful enought to be a strong force on open fields like voulgiers, the sword militia of danemark, obusganders and not forget the the swiss guards.And you not forget they are cheap in recruitment cost/mantainance.

**Point Blank** · January 15, 2009, 01:19 AM

If you try latest version of Real Combat as in my .sig, Halberds and all 2H weapons were given significant boosts, but not to the point of being unbalanced though. Having Armor Piercing and +6 vs Cavalry is a powerful combination, and they rip apart even later heavy cavalry in melee.