Wallachia in SS

[catnah]

Anyone interested in having Wallachia faction in SS please help with reference.
As far as i know only a single mod for M2 (Clouds Across Europe) has Wallachia playable, so are there any ways to port it for SS?

Tnx for support.

[Caesar Clivus]

From a modding perspective, yes there are ways but unless the Clouds Across Europe team give you permission to include their work, then you can't release it publicly.

Plus although there is room for one more faction, the 500 unit limit has been reached. Ways of reducing the number of units in the game have been discussed (i.e. merging all the cultures' different artillery units into the one unit) so that would require extra modding.

[Gogolometro]

Nope, I am romanian but in SS is no place for them.Minor player to be represented sorry.

[The Noble Lord]

Maybe in the next installment they will be a faction as they should be. Ireland and Portugal should be out and factions like Abassids and Wallachia should be in.

[Henry707]

I demand that we delete France, Holy Roman Empire, England & all of the Italian city states. To be replaced with Empire of the Smurfs, King Volrf the third dynasty from Iceland in 343 BC, Belgium & Swaziland.

I demand these changes to make the system playable & realistic

Henri

[Musthavename]

I demand these changes to make the system playable & realistic

You forgot the Kingdom of Random Animals with Lasers strapped to their Heads. They were quite prominent around Mecca around the time of the 3rd Crusade, but were defeated in the end by Saladin. [AT LEAST IN MY MIND DAMNIT!]

[Henry707]

Good point - must have them in. I urgently demand their inclusion along with the Cyclons from Battlestar Galatica who can fly around zapping everyone...

henri

[Gogolometro]

Cylons Henry my friend Cylons!
I understand everyone wanna play with their national heroes and units but lets face it in SS time at least before 1300 Wallchia nad Moldavia was small, very small players.Is real after 1330 Walachia became a little star state after 1400 Moldavia was very strong but this happend for 100-200 years only.I cant put my nation in SS even deleting Ireland and Templars because was other interesting and powerfull players who deserve a place.Western Europe miss the Burgundia, the republic of Pisa, Florece republic, Navarre...In Asia Minor is a place for Armenia, Georgia and the Bagdad sultanate.Were is Oman and many more factions...

I am sure all SS players want 50 factions but before empire we cant gonna get it.

Of course I cant Accept to see Hungary ruling in balcans not because I dont like them but because was near imposible to get there because small factions like bulgars.Maybe more bulgars in eary campaign deserve a spot not Walachia.

[Gnostiko]

Maybe more bulgars in eary campaign deserve a spot not Walachia.

Not till the late campaign at least, due to the First Bulgarian Empire having been extinguished before the start of the early era campaign.

[Gogolometro]

Again you right!What the heck all balcans look like feudal lands, all over, dutchies, principates, even small kingdoms and a big dead.If mongols not make the trip to these place Baiazid will be first sieging Wienna.

[Whiskeyblind]

Cylons Henry my friend Cylons!
I understand everyone wanna play with their national heroes and units but lets face it in SS time at least before 1300 Wallchia nad Moldavia was small, very small players.Is real after 1330 Walachia became a little star state after 1400 Moldavia was very strong but this happend for 100-200 years only.I cant put my nation in SS even deleting Ireland and Templars because was other interesting and powerfull players who deserve a place.Western Europe miss the Burgundia, the republic of Pisa, Florece republic, Navarre...In Asia Minor is a place for Armenia, Georgia and the Bagdad sultanate.Were is Oman and many more factions...

I am sure all SS players want 50 factions but before empire we cant gonna get it.

Of course I cant Accept to see Hungary ruling in balcans not because I dont like them but because was near imposible to get there because small factions like bulgars.Maybe more bulgars in eary campaign deserve a spot not Walachia.

New Cylons or old Cylons?

[Jonni_g_n]

Wallachia is playable during the late era on Chivalry: The Sicilian Vespers. Good mod, but the skins are a little ugly.

With regard to factions, i'm sorry but the Kwaz empire need to go, the map made smaller and Abbasid put in, Templars switched with emergent swiss, and portugal and crusaders being emergent. (or scripted carefully) .. while we are at it make the cumans Wends..

[Angrychris]

kwaz were a big factor in why the mongols came and took their regions (failure to make alliance) and perhaps rebels should just retain a status/title and still not be playable to help accuracy.

[Angrychris]

"i faught with your father in vindabona"

[Carpathian Wolf]

Hundreds of thousands of Ottoman Turk soldiers died because of the Romanian principalities but that is small potatos compared to the Irish struggle...=/ anyone else see an inconsistancy?

The only "small role" Wallachia and Moldova played was having large territories. But none of the big rulers there wanted to expand, just maintain the border. Go to VV and read the "most under rated" thread if you aren't convinced.

I'm personally not pushing for wallachia or moldova to be added in to SS because I think they'll be better represented in the Tzardom mod that focuses on the Balkans specifically. But let's not call them "small players" considering what they did and in respects to adding factions like Ireland and the Templars.

[Gogolometro]

You not read well or not want to understand.History in school is for national proud not for facts.Read above maybe Ireland was just a joke, maybe against kongism the templars not deserve a place but, were you put walachia in SS?Above Burgundy?Above Navarre?Above Cilician armenians?
And most important what types of infantry/cavalry you have in mind?Before Michael was no profesional army, no steel armor, no lancers.What unit can define the Walachia?I understand you love to see your faction on your virtual land in SS but are any chances to survive the first 50 turns?Dont worry others want Bulgaria.Ideea is I dont seen AI turks getting close to Danube in any campaign belive me.I can loveto play with Aragon or HRE.Is not remaking history is just a fun game with some historical flavor.I hope I not make you nervous.

[Carpathian Wolf]

You not read well or not want to understand.History in school is for national proud not for facts.Read above maybe Ireland was just a joke, maybe against kongism the templars not deserve a place but, were you put walachia in SS?Above Burgundy?Above Navarre?Above Cilician armenians?
And most important what types of infantry/cavalry you have in mind?Before Michael was no profesional army, no steel armor, no lancers.What unit can define the Walachia?I understand you love to see your faction on your virtual land in SS but are any chances to survive the first 50 turns?Dont worry others want Bulgaria.Ideea is I dont seen AI turks getting close to Danube in any campaign belive me.I can loveto play with Aragon or HRE.Is not remaking history is just a fun game with some historical flavor.I hope I not make you nervous.

I went to school in Romania for 1st grade. And then the rest of my life I lived in America.


Go read the history of your own country if you are confused at the role Romanians played against Ottoman Turks.

No army? Go ask Romano-Dacis to give you some books to read in PDF file.

Wallachia couldn't live in the first 50 turns? Well they survived for hundreds of years the expansionistic ambitions of the Golden Horde, Ottoman Turks, Hungarians, Austro-Hungarians, Poles, and Russians.

No you don't make me nervous, just disapointed.


Seriously if you guys want to add Wallachia into SS, go for it. I'd wait until Tzardom comes out and ask to import the units from there.

[Gogolometro]

Sorry to tell you but you failed.You know the word "with 1 flower cant make spring"?
Simple exercise make sum for past 1000 years for independent state Walachia/Romanian Kingdom/republic.Nope just 1000-1500.Fail again 1000 was no Walacia?Imagine I read too much about my people problem is are nice books but are writted you guess romanians.We have it some shining rulers, some great victories and some kigdoms crushed in some clear/heroic victories but important to understad is are the exceptions not the rule.All time the romanian rulers was vasals to hungarians, turks, polish, austrians and tzarist russia for a while.Read behind the lines, face the truth - minor players.

[dj LiTh]

Sorry to tell you but you failed.You know the word "with 1 flower cant make spring"?
Simple exercise make sum for past 1000 years for independent state Walachia/Romanian Kingdom/republic.Nope just 1000-1500.Fail again 1000 was no Walacia?Imagine I read too much about my people problem is are nice books but are writted you guess romanians.We have it some shining rulers, some great victories and some kigdoms crushed in some clear/heroic victories but important to understad is are the exceptions not the rule.All time the romanian rulers was vasals to hungarians, turks, polish, austrians and tzarist russia for a while.Read behind the lines, face the truth - minor players.

Can someone translate this ....um.... i guess from english to english? Thanks!

[Henry707]

Did I say Cyclons? - I meant cylons - cyclon is the name of my washing machine & I do not want them as a faction.

Jokes aside, we have this kind of post quite often & I do understand, peeps want what they feel is their heritage in the game. But hey it is a game, can't have everyone, personally, I'd like to see another powerful Muslim faction in there, maybe to balance out the whole game.

I agree with deleting Ireland but not so we can add another obscure min-euro power on....can see the point...

And before I get flamed for say that - coming from the British Isles, I do understand that this area had a 'minor' role in world affairs, it's not offensive to me - we're just last bloomers in these islands

Henri