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    Default CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    Hi guys, I'm new to this forum and I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have with my ExRM.

    I have installed it with the "no nonsense installer" of bladerunner900 and it started right away without any complications. So I would have the v3.3.4 version if i'm not mistaken.

    If I start the game and initiate a battle everything works just fine, but when I want to play a second battle, it crashes to the desktop when it's loading. It sure puts the flow out of my campain.

    Now, can this be solved?

    Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    There's a missing model somewhere in descr_model_battle.txt, IIRC. If you haven't manually added any units into the game, replacing your DMB with the one in the zipped patch file should clear it up AFAIK.

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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    I'm afraid I didn't quite understood your post pannonian. I'm not that familiar with the modding terminology:p.

    What does DMB stand for?

    I don't think I have manually added units, since I don't know how

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charontas View Post
    I'm afraid I didn't quite understood your post pannonian. I'm not that familiar with the modding terminology:p.

    What does DMB stand for?

    I don't think I have manually added units, since I don't know how
    DMB is descr_model_battle.txt. It's in the Data folder. I had the same problem when I added some vanilla units back in, and found out that it had something to do with the DMB when I researched the problem. Pity, as wardogs are teh cool for hunting rebels with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charontas View Post
    Hi guys, I'm new to this forum and I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have with my ExRM.

    I have installed it with the "no nonsense installer" of bladerunner900 and it started right away without any complications. So I would have the v3.3.4 version if i'm not mistaken.

    If I start the game and initiate a battle everything works just fine, but when I want to play a second battle, it crashes to the desktop when it's loading. It sure puts the flow out of my campain.

    Now, can this be solved?

    Thanks in advance
    Hi Charontas.

    if you are still having your CTD problem I would try doing a clean install of of the game and the mods. I know it is a pain in he arse as i have had the same problem when i first played RTWP with EE but a reinstall sorted it out. It is worth it mate im have lots of fun

    If you are using vista remember when you install rome, explore the disk right click on the install icon go to Compatiablity and tick run in xp service pact2 thingy, some with the mods.

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    I thought I'd seen someone mention this before. That solution should work.

    This does sound like the missing model issue--that said, I'd be stunned if there's a missing model in a full and complete installation, so it's likely an installation problem. It's not bug-free, but it should be free of _that_ bug.
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    I have tried replacing the DMB in the ExRM file with the one that's in the WinRAR file, but it didn't fixed the problem. I souldn't replace the one that is in the main Data folder for RTW, right?

    Anyway, I'll try a complete reinstallation when I find the time. I'll let you guys know if that will do the trick.

    Thanks for the reply's.

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    CTD every second battle normally means the sprites of some unit(s) are missing or corrupted.

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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    I tried reinstalling everyting again (after a reformat) and I keep getting CTD's every time I have to play 2 battle is a row. Now I really don't know what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by florin80 View Post
    CTD every second battle normally means the sprites of some unit(s) are missing or corrupted.
    Is there any way to get these missing sprites? Could someone, who's ExRM doesn't have this problem, upload these files?:hmmm:

    I don't think it has anyting to do with my operating system, since it's windows xp home, and not vista.

    Thanks for the help so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charontas View Post
    I have tried replacing the DMB in the ExRM file with the one that's in the WinRAR file, but it didn't fixed the problem. I souldn't replace the one that is in the main Data folder for RTW, right?

    Anyway, I'll try a complete reinstallation when I find the time. I'll let you guys know if that will do the trick.

    Thanks for the reply's.
    If you are going to replace it, then it should be the one in here:
    RTW\ExRM\Data\DMB.txt

    and not (like I think you said correctly already):
    RTW\Data\DMB.txt


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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    Then I did it correctly, but to no effect. (The easy solutions never work for me )

    edit: PatricianS, I've been checking the previews of RTR VII:FOE and I must say it looks great.
    Last edited by Charontas; January 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charontas View Post
    Then I did it correctly, but to no effect. (The easy solutions never work for me )
    lol... The same here buddy... When I first Installed RTR I had some big trouble too... Re-installing time after time... But in the end it will work as intended

    edit: PatricianS, I've been checking the previews of RTR VII:FOE and I must say it looks great.
    Cool that you like it... Just wait until you can get your hands on it...


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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    2 battles in a row? Interesting. Tell me, do either of these battles involve a siege?
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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    No, I systematicly get thrown to my desktop every second battle I try to play. So siege battles, sally forth's, brigde battles, field battles,... Every type of battle.

    It's not pleasant to say the least.

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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    I can imagine.

    When you tried replacing your installation with the version that's not in the installer, did you remember to install the most recent patch, too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinn Inuit View Post
    I can imagine.

    When you tried replacing your installation with the version that's not in the installer, did you remember to install the most recent patch, too?
    I can't remember installing any patch...:hmmm: I've always assumed that the 'no nonsence installer' included everything I needed, including patches.

    Will give it a try thou, even if I've got to restart my campain all over (and lose my maxed out general/faction leader "Augustus the Mighty" )
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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    Oh, wait, I thought you reinstalled not using the installer. Have you tried that? If so, you would've had to install the patch.

    Don't worry, it should be savegame compatible. Just copy your save file to somewhere safe.
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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    Well, I've tried installing ExRM without the installer and installed the patch and I think my CTD problem is fixed. But I can't say it's a total succes, since my save game didn't came out without a scratch.

    For instance, some of my regions or provinces have switched owner, but the cities are still mine. This happend troughout the entire worldmap.

    And the traits of my generals are also alterted, for example my "Augustus the Mighty" became Augustus Afranius again and instead of commanding the First Consular Army, he's now in charge of the XVVIII Legion or something like that.

    I think the best thing for me to do right now is to start a new campain

    Anyways, I'm still glad I can fight several battles in a row now. I owe it all to you guys, thanks alot. I would be glad to rep you but I don't think that option is available for me, yet.

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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    Quote Originally Posted by Charontas View Post
    Well, I've tried installing ExRM without the installer and installed the patch and I think my CTD problem is fixed. But I can't say it's a total succes, since my save game didn't came out without a scratch.

    For instance, some of my regions or provinces have switched owner, but the cities are still mine. This happend troughout the entire worldmap.

    And the traits of my generals are also alterted, for example my "Augustus the Mighty" became Augustus Afranius again and instead of commanding the First Consular Army, he's now in charge of the XVVIII Legion or something like that.

    I think the best thing for me to do right now is to start a new campain

    Anyways, I'm still glad I can fight several battles in a row now. I owe it all to you guys, thanks alot. I would be glad to rep you but I don't think that option is available for me, yet.
    No worries, I repped him for you!
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    Default Re: CTD during load of every 2nd battle

    Sorry for taking so long to respond to this. I've been a bit busy lately.

    For the record. The installer is a combination of the 3.2 mod plus the 3.3.4 patch plus the 3.3.4g hotfix. After having played this mod for some time, I have yet to experience a crash and that is after fighting several consecutive battles. So I have no idea why you are having so much trouble with this mod. Sorry!

    The only thing I can suggest is to re-install RTW, re-install BI and make sure they are version 1.5 and 1.6 respectively.

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