Hamas Charter:

[Dance the older]

Very interesting read this morning as I sat at work...

I never knew about this, but it makes perfect sense as to the true intentions of Hamas!

For anyone calling for Israel to negotiate a peaceful, lasting solution to the ongoing crisis in Gaza, I have two simple words: Hamas Charter.

Please, Google it and read it. Released in 1988, the Charter is the constitution of Hamas. Knowing what it says helps one understand that while peace between Israel and Hamas -- as opposed to temporary "truces" where Hamas simply reloads -- would be wonderful, at present, it's impossible.

Why? Because while the world calls for a two-state solution in the region -- a secure Israel living in peace beside an independent Palestine -- Hamas calls for the obliteration of Israel and its replacement by an Islamic waqf.

As the Hamas Charter states: "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it has obliterated others before it ... the land of Israel is an Islamic Waqf, consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgment Day."

Hamas is also very clear about what "Judgment Day" means.

Again, from its Charter: "The day of judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews (and kill them), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stone and trees will say, 'O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him'."

source

Well now, Islam? So it is motivated by religion, not necessarily Israelis as a people. So no matter what Israelis do, the Jews will always be disrespected, nice to know that these extremists run rampant. I'm sure their not to fond of other religions either.

Oh and to add to this, whoever wrote up that charter and actually wrote the most idiotic paragraph as quoted from the Charter, unbelievable, are you ing 10 years old buddy? LOL

[Ketchup]

Whilst I will not advocate Hamas' eventual goals, or in some cases the way they are doing it, I agree with the principle they fight for (and the reason they got elected btw) is freedom for Palestinians and the cessation of Israeli oppression. And I believe that is one of the worthiest causes one can go to war for. Granted Hamas take it to the extreme but at least Israel are finally getting challenged after decades of Palestinian opression...

[Dance the older]

Whilst I will not advocate Hamas' eventual goals, or in some cases the way they are doing it, I agree with the principle they fight for (and the reason they got elected btw) is freedom for Palestinians and the cessation of Israeli oppression. And I believe that is one of the worthiest causes one can go to war for. Granted Hamas take it to the extreme but at least Israel are finally getting challenged after decades of Palestinian opression...

Judging by their ing charter, it's pretty clear to see their off their ing rocker.

Would you want these scumbags (referring to Hamas) running a Country?

It'd turn into another North Korea or the like, unacceptable. I hope Israel blasts these losers (referring to Hamas) into the Sea.

[justicar5]

Judging by their ing charter, it's pretty clear to see their off their ing rocker.

Would you want these scumbags (referring to Hamas) running a Country?

It'd turn into another North Korea or the like, unacceptable. I hope Israel blasts these losers (referring to Hamas) into the Sea.

Judging by their actions isreal is off it's rocker, why would I want these scumbags running a country?

[MaryPoppinCaps]

Wrong thread, bud.

And it would be the Palestinians running the country, not necessarily Hamas.

[Dance the older]

Wrong thread, bud.

And it would be the Palestinians running the country, not necessarily Hamas.

Who runs Palestine now?

And btw, this needs to be seen, you can't discredit their intentions. I don't think Israel's intentions, atleast not in their charter are the complete destruction of Palestinians.

[jankren]

Who runs Palestine now?

And btw, this needs to be seen, you can't discredit their intentions. I don't think Israel's intentions, atleast not in their charter are the complete destruction of Palestinians.

"The partition of the Homeland is illegal. It will never be recognized. Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital. Greater Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it and forever!”
- Menachem Begin, Former Prime Minister of Israel

Imagine a Palestinian leader made this comment. Hmm .. :hmmm:

[Dance the older]

Imagine a Palestinian leader made this comment. Hmm .. :hmmm:

Jerusalem is Israel's. And I hope the day is soon that one of it's neighbors tries to fix that.

[MaryPoppinCaps]

Who runs Palestine now?

And btw, this needs to be seen, you can't discredit their intentions. I don't think Israel's intentions, atleast not in their charter are the complete destruction of Palestinians.

No one runs Palestine, it does not exist; Israel has the land now.

I second a previous call for the actual charter before I make judgment.

[Treize]

Wrong thread, bud.

And it would be the Palestinians running the country, not necessarily Hamas.

Seconded.

[jankren]

Hamas will recognize Israel under the 67' Border.

Every organization evolves in accordance to circumstances. The Democratic Party used to be slavery promoter. But after centuries they have become number one promoter of liberty.

[Ihatemonday]

It is very easy to hate islam,muslims or anyone dont think like you .But never easy to get rid of a constant mind and fears from childhood ha Jesse James?
When you are defending israel to death here why cant you just understand some people defend their causes to death too just like you...
The difference between you and hamas is you are only on the opposite sides with your constant minds
Dont get offended but i just really cant understand it...
My best wishes for you.

[Ketchup]

And I suppose you'd like them to blow all Palestinians into the "Sea" to, eh?

"Would you want these scumbags running a Country?"

Firstly, it's not up to your or me or anyone else, except the Palestiniians, to decide who runs their country. Secondly, if you call Hamas scumbags then you are calling Israle scumbags too. Is this your position?

[Dance the older]

And I suppose you'd like them to blow all Palestinians into the "Sea" to, eh?

"Would you want these scumbags running a Country?"

Firstly, it's not up to your or me or anyone else, except the Palestiniians, to decide who runs their country. Secondly, if you call Hamas scumbags then you are calling Israle scumbags too. Is this your position?

Israeli intentions are to live peacefully, it's their neighbours that are disgruntled. I'm sorry, the fact you cannot discredit me and try changing the subject doesn't help. Currently, Hamas is running Palestine, atleast more then anyone else, therefore Palestine is Hamas' Country, don't forget who put Hamas into power, what was it, 19 years after this charter? They knew DAMN WELL who they were putting into power.

As for Palestinians, please read what I wrote (referring to Hamas), not every Palestinian is Hamas, therefore when I said it, I was referring to Hamas, please learn to read, kthx.

It is very easy to hate islam,muslims or anyone dont think like you .But never easy to get rid of a constant mind and fears from childhood ha Jesse James?
When you are defending israel to death here why cant you just understand some people defend their causes to death too just like you...
The difference between you and hamas is you are only on the oppsite sides with your constant minds
Dont get offended but i just really cat understand it...
My best wishes for you.

I enjoyed this mistake-filled single paragraph btw.

I got no problem with Muslims. I have Muslim friends, I have Jewish friends, I have Hindu friends, etc, etc. Don't put me into the same category as Hamas. I'm not aiming for the obliteration of an entire religion. I'm religiously secure with myself. The fact of the matter is that too many Muslim extremists are running rampant and their own people (yes other Muslims with the same citizenship) do nothing to stop their own fanatics. This is the fault of their own people. Don't call them all innocent please when they condone extremists.

[Ihatemonday]

I'm sorry, the fact you cannot discredit me and try changing the subject doesn't help. .

Yes trying to changing you or discrediting you wont help us to make Hamas supreme
There is you and others and nothing else.It is nonsense to discuss anything with you.
Pardon me i wont change your subject anymore.

[Dance the older]

Yes trying to changing you or discrediting you wont help us to make Hamas supreme
There is you and others and nothing else.It is nonsense to discuss anything with you.
Pardon me i wont change your subject anymore.

Do you have proper grammar?

Hey you aren't the sharpest tool in the draw either buddy....


I agree with it. Fight till Palestine is not opressed.

I wonder how many of Hamas are getting degrees in university?

[Ihatemonday]

Do you have proper grammar?

Why is it your concern?Are you an english teacher?

[Adhamh Ashashi]

I wonder how many of Hamas are getting degrees in university?

None, cause all the universities are destroyed.


And are you doing one? Didn't know ignorance was a course now?

[MaryPoppinCaps]

Do you have proper grammar?



I wonder how many of Hamas are getting degrees in university?

Careful with your criticism.

Anyway, you seem to miss my replies to you quite frequently.

[bigfootedfred]

its my understanding the IRA still wants a united ireland...