Military points

[apostolosm]

First of all excellent mod!

I have found that it makes the game VERY VERY immersive.THX REPman!!

My only gripe is with Military points.. I love the Rpg aspect and therefore I attack only with my best general with a great stack and in a nice setting. I am a piecemonger! Turns pass without any fight (I play M/m).

So the problem is that after I build a fortress I am conctantly loosing points and therefore I cannot reach 60 no matter what (I could wait and not build up until 60 but that would be like having a nice cake waiting for you while on a diet) .. I know i can edit the point system but I think that requirement to fight constantly takes some of the immersion way. I agree with the action base system but why loose points for upgrading your castles constantly?

Anybody feels the same??

[Lord Cave]

I am afraid my experience was the opposite, I had my 100 military points and still 0 gov.

Not to sound flippant, but like you said, if you're running a peacemongering society, how can you develop advanced weapons of war?

_g

[apostolosm]

I like fighting but no more than 2-3 times per turn. However, if I loose 2 points each turn, I never get enough points...I prefer to fight once with a Kickass army than many with crappier ones. Also development gives better weapons NOT how much you fight :-)

[Infinity at End]

I agree...is hard to keep those Military Points... :| and I only have a fortress ( that means -1 Military Point every turn ....and now it seems that I can't gain any more Military Points...

I didn't manage to get my Faction Heir to the capitol to get the crown because my King diedat early age (53) and all my empire is upside-down .....

I will start a new campaig :| ...this time I will use diferent tactics ...and see if I can do something to keep and maintain my Military Points...


Or can you make some special traits for Military Generals taht gives 1 or 2 Military Points per turn ...like the Ring/Key/Coin or Governors works...and these traits to be given to those generals that prove they worth in battle...or those to are governator for a city/castel that train vast numbers of units....or something like that... :|

Regards , Infinity !!!

[Lekseitch]

Or can you make some special traits for Military Generals taht gives 1 or 2 Military Points per turn ...like the Ring/Key/Coin or Governors works

All generals above the "Knight" rank are supposed to be giving you military points, as i understand, but this feature doesn't seem to be working.

I'm now playing a Portuegese campaign and i've also had a great difficulty getting the maximum military points, having made the mistake of constructing a fortress. So i trained an elite army with a lot of pikemen and heavy cavalry and sent it off to conquer the Americas. After half a dozen heroic victories and dispatching about 40k Aztecs i did get 100 mil points. ))
And i also kept carrying out missions from the council and the pope - that also adds mil points.

In general, it seems best not to construct a fortress until you've got 100 mil points. Otherwise, under current rules, getting the maximum points will be extremely tough for most factions (although, i must admit, playing as the Lithuanians i reached maximum militray points before the first Dark Age, fighting several battles every turn, but my economy was a mess then). )))

[Infinity at End]

@Lekseitch
you read my mind this is what I want to do now..because I start a new Campaig with my favourite faction : Norway those Huscalrs are way too nice and powerfull and you have them from the begining of the game...

I will too won't upgrade a castel to fortress/citadel until I reach the limit at military points (100 points) ...then I will slowly turn one by one my castels up in level...not all of them :| .....

[Dauntless Commandant]

I could count at least 100 spelling errors above me

Anyway my fellow DLV'ers,

@ Lekseitch

Where did you hear about that feature of Knights gaining you military points was broken?

[Infinity at End]

I could count at least 100 spelling errors above me

Anyway my fellow DLV'ers,

@ Lekseitch

Where did you hear about that feature of Knights gaining you military points was broken?

Damn you man... I will sell my soul and buy you the worst place in the hell where you can spend your eternity !!!

I'm not a native English Speaker...so please...have some respect !!!

PS(Joke) : -rep to Dauntless Commandant !!!!

Regards , Infinity !!!!

[Dauntless Commandant]

Damn you man... I will sell my soul and buy you the worst place in the hell where you can spend your eternity !!!

I'm not a native English Speaker...so please...have some respect !!!

PS(Joke) : -rep to Dauntless Commandant !!!!

Regards , Infinity !!!!

Haha I joke also

You are really good, in fact - you speak better English than me!!

We are good now??

[Infinity at End]

Haha I joke also

You are really good, in fact - you speak better English than me!!

We are good now??

yes we are........what I can do with the stick if you are not beside me ?

[Lekseitch]

@ Lekseitch

Where did you hear about that feature of Knights gaining you military points was broken?

well, at least that's what it looks like.
See for yourself:
I have a fortress (-1 point/turn) and a stone fort in enemy territory (-2p/turn for dishonest transgression, i believe(?)).
I also have a Knight Grand Kreuz (+4) and two Knight Bannerets (+2 each).
I do the maths: 4+2+2 -1-2=5 So i should be getting 5 mil points every turn. Instead, i'm losing about 3. As i can't see, what else could be causing that, i conclude, that the Rank-Military Points feature is not working.
Please, correct me if i'm wrong.

P.S. I reached 100 points twice in my Portuguese campaign, but each time my point count was down again the next turn, so the Citadel Barracks were not unlocked. I ended up, as has been mentioned already, having to wipe out the Aztecs to get the maximum.

[Kjertesvein]

So my question is... any one ever got the citedal armoury? :hmmm:

[repman]

Governor Ancs as key,.. give gov_points but General ancs as knight banner,...don't give any military points.
So we need to eliminate the fortress\citadel subtraction or to counterbalance it

repman

[apostolosm]

Governor Ancs as key,.. give gov_points but General ancs as knight banner,...don't give any military points.
So we need to eliminate the fortress\citadel subtraction or to counterbalance it

repman

My belief is so since you should not be forced to fight if you dont want to and it is a shame not to develop because of that...

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[Infinity at End]

Governor Ancs as key,.. give gov_points but General ancs as knight banner,...don't give any military points.
So we need to eliminate the fortress\citadel subtraction or to counterbalance it

repman

I wish to modify my mod on my pc to be like this :
Fortress 0 Military Points per turn
Citadel -1 Military Points per turn....


but I can't find the right file where I can edit the code... :| .... can you help me ? what is the file that have that code ? .....


Regards , Infinity !!!

[Dauntless Commandant]

I wish to modify my mod on my pc to be like this :
Fortress 0 Military Points per turn
Citadel -1 Military Points per turn....


but I can't find the right file where I can edit the code... :| .... can you help me ? what is the file that have that code ? .....


Regards , Infinity !!!

I think it's in the campaign_script mate, - just open that up - press Ctrl + Fm, then type military points

it should find the section where all these scripts are activated

Hope it helps!

[Infinity at End]

I think it's in the campaign_script mate, - just open that up - press Ctrl + Fm, then type military points

it should find the section where all these scripts are activated

Hope it helps!

the campaign_script is called : descr_strat
and there is nothing that have a conection with Military/Governal Points ..there are only the settings for all the resources on the map and for all factions...their starting city/castels ..starting armies and starting relations between them...nothing about Military Points...but...tks for you help anyway...

I think the code for Mil Points are in a different file...that the team has made...and I realy apreciate if someone from the team can tell me were to find it...

Regards , Infinity !!!

[Kjertesvein]

Governor Ancs as key,.. give gov_points but General ancs as knight banner,...don't give any military points.
So we need to eliminate the fortress\citadel subtraction or to counterbalance it

repman

As a member of the House of Total Addicts, I vote for counterbalance

[Infinity at End]

I got a few questions ...

1: I saw this code :
if I_CompareCounter factionsize == Number
and I_CompareCounter unitlimit <= Number
freeze_recruit_pool all false
end_if

where Number were from 5...10...15...asn so on until 1250 (The maximum army size)...so in the game when we look at Faction Army Size limit and Faction Army Used it is rouded up to 5 ...if I will change the code for every number from 5 to 1250 will I get the right and exact Faction Army Size in the game ?! (Just tell my if it will show....I will make the code in about 2 hours ) ..or the scripts only can work with rouded up numbers...or there is too much code lines and it will slow down the game and to avoid this stuff the team only use the rouded numbers...

2: Can someone tell me exactly where I can find the code for City/Castels Military/Govern. Points Reduction ? pleaseeee !!!!!!



@Dauntless Commandant you are right man...sry..my mistake I was looking at something else and by the way I still love you too !!!


Regards , Infinity !!!

[Kupr]

I got a few questions ...

I also have problem with Mil Points. Can somebody help to edit it?

*I found script:
(DLV_ext\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign, DLV_ext\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign.txt)
;----------------military ranking-------------------
monitor_event LeaderMissionSuccess FactionIsLocal
inc_counter mil_points 1
inc_counter gov_points 1
end_monitor
monitor_event LeaderMissionFailed FactionIsLocal
inc_counter mil_points -1
inc_counter gov_points -1
end_monitor
;monitor_event GeneralCaptureSettlement FactionIsLocal
; inc_counter mil_points 1
;end_monitor
monitor_event ArmyTakesCrusadeTarget FactionIsLocal
****


I will try to edit it.

*I suppose problem is here:

monitor_event AddedToBuildingQueue FactionIsLocal
and BuildingName = wooden_castle
inc_counter mil_points -1
end_monitor
monitor_event AddedToBuildingQueue FactionIsLocal
and BuildingName = castle
inc_counter mil_points -2
end_monitor
monitor_event AddedToBuildingQueue FactionIsLocal
and BuildingName = fortress
inc_counter mil_points -3
end_monitor
monitor_event AddedToBuildingQueue FactionIsLocal
and BuildingName = citadel
inc_counter mil_points -4
end_monitor.


So each castle gives negative mil Points each turn. Even "wooden_castle" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The more castles the more negative mil points!