mergin ayyubids into vanilla

[HunterKiller]

is there any way possible that i can delete vanilla's egyptian units and add ayyubids units instead of them so i can play with ayyubids against europe?! and offcourse making their stats be suitable for vanilla world.
any way possible if any one could help plz and thnx 4 reading.
i am not asking u guyz to do it at all, i am asking u how to do it and i will do the best i can.

[AngryTitusPullo]

Check the modding section or search about how to add units for M2TW

[HunterKiller]

will give a try.

[HunterKiller]

i posted there but no body cared to reply, looks like its hopeless.

[TheLastPrivate]

I believe LestaT mentioned the word "Search", rather than "Post"

[viskarenvisla]

I believe LestaT mentioned the word "Search", rather than "Post"

I'd like to stand up and make a very unpopular statement if I could please.

It seems that in all the forums I visit, which isn't many for precisely this reason, people are so damn pissy. SO. DAMN. PISSY. About stupid little things like posting a question in a forum instead of immediately searching. There is the distinct possibility that HunterKiller, whose name I've seen on here for a while, -did- try searching first.

Why do people get a hernia over something like posting in a forum? Is this not what forums are supposed to do? Is there a limited amount of space to post in a forum, and somehow HunterKiller's post devours that space like a ravenous sandworm? I'm sorry I have chosen to randomly target LestaT here but seriously. Forum etiquette should be the same as IRL etiquette - the only reason it's not is because the people that get whiny comments about 'don't post here' or 'how dare you mess up the forum' don't get slapped in the face by the offended.

Now, allow me to unruffle my feathers.

Let's keep it friendly here a'ight? Sarcasm=Nasty if you can't do it IRL, so avoid it on my internet I say unless you're good at it.

[The Cobra]

I'd like to stand up and make a very unpopular statement if I could please.

It seems that in all the forums I visit, which isn't many for precisely this reason, people are so damn pissy. SO. DAMN. PISSY. About stupid little things like posting a question in a forum instead of immediately searching. There is the distinct possibility that HunterKiller, whose name I've seen on here for a while, -did- try searching first.

Why do people get a hernia over something like posting in a forum? Is this not what forums are supposed to do? Is there a limited amount of space to post in a forum, and somehow HunterKiller's post devours that space like a ravenous sandworm? I'm sorry I have chosen to randomly target LestaT here but seriously. Forum etiquette should be the same as IRL etiquette - the only reason it's not is because the people that get whiny comments about 'don't post here' or 'how dare you mess up the forum' don't get slapped in the face by the offended.

Now, allow me to unruffle my feathers.

Let's keep it friendly here a'ight? Sarcasm=Nasty if you can't do it IRL, so avoid it on my internet I say unless you're good at it.

d00d, I know you're right about this, but you're taking it way too far. Take for example the SS forum. 10 new threads daily, and each one of them is a stereotype of previous ones (why are Templars weak, how do I install, why are Saracen militants weak, I broke up with my gf..etc) and I've heard none complain about it. Now that someone is asking a completely legit question worth a thread. You hear people find fault for nothing at all, Whilst in reality they should've said that somewhere else.

You can't blame them for that considering the regular repetitive flow of threads in most forum, even though BC is a unique case.

[The Cobra]

It would require some work to get working. Not really an issue in this case, except the BC team considers distributing their work to infidels Haram

[Strelac]

It would require some work to get working. Not really an issue in this case, except the BC team considers distributing their work to infidels Haram

oh dear...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Moved to tech forum.

[Faris ad Din]

It is true that many questions get repeated again dozens of times. I got the question as to why people can't enter the Arabian Desert over 10 times, and I'm sure these people never used the search option for "Impassable Arabian Desert" in the BC forums. Don't take it personally and don't judge the whole community based on a few jerks' aggravated responses. They're not treating you like an idiot nor scolding you as one, they are simply telling you something that they believe would be honestly more helpful to you. When they repeat it for the tenth or twentieth time however it feels just like you're the same person who repeated their question so of course they will be tired.

So I have the understanding of how to add my own units to vanilla M2:TW and I have. But the process is actually a detailed one, and this is JUST for units:

1. Edit battle_models.rw (with long long explanation)
2. Edit unit names file (with an explanation)
3. Add description to description file (with explanation)
4. Add unit card and portrait TGAs to folders (with explanation)
5. Add units to export_descr_units.txt (with explanation)
6. Add units to several appropriate places in the export_descr_buildings.txt (with explanation)
7. Add units to export_guilds.txt so you can activate the corresponding bonuses (or bye bye guilds. Also, with a corresponding explanation)
8. Add units to descr_strat.txt (starting campaign data)

I think... that's about all you have to change, really, for adding new units.

For changing faction name - may be actually a little bit easier. How many new mods are made is they don't bother with changing the fundamental vanilla names - Ayyubids in BC inside the programming 'guts' are just 'egypt'.

1. Change the .txt file with the list of faction names and appearance
2. Change descr_character_traits so that some of their qualities don't appear as 'Hates Egypt' or 'Fears Egypt' but change it to 'Ayyubids.' Which is why we still get mumbo jumbo like 'Hates Milan' or 'Fears Milan' in BC although with the rate Milan takes over Europe with their crossbow militia spam it won't be a far shot until you find hordes of wooden-back Milanese crossbow militia arriving to wipe the map but anyway.

There must be more files to change but I never attempted to change faction names myself.

I found out everything here without posting a single question (as far as I remember) asking people to teach me how to do it. So at least 90% or more of the time I wanted to find something - I ran a search with keywords and appropriate restrictions on the search, and looked through the entire search results. If that didn't work, I ran a SECOND search. If that didn't work, I ran a THIRD search. By this point, more often than not (that means usually), I found a wonderful full thread already in the forums somewhere with wonderful instructions by somebody. Not only that but there are my questions already asked on the thread, and even more wonderful questions I didn't think of but still helped me. If I didn't find this on the third or so search, then I used Google about four to five times - takes no more than four to five minutes. If that doesn't work I usually go back to the TW forums and click around on the modding forums looking up stickied threads, and if none of my searches yields anything I make my own post. This takes only half an hour. It is much much better than waiting for other people around the world to take care of everything for you; if you ever ask strangers in life to take care of you by the way you'll very likely get angry reactions.

So I can do your search FOR you on the mod tutorial forums and if you don't understand, I can also interpret them for you into simple English if it's a problem. But please forgive an old BC forums member for taking up this bit of space on the crowded TWC forums and for taking up this bit of your attention and time to point out - well, try to point out the following reality:



I was bitten by a 1.5 year old Jindo dog today while trying to hush him up. Yeah, laugh. Laugh hard. Around 250 PSI (Pounds of force per Square Inch of surface contact) with sharp carnivore's teeth causing long deep gashes and especially the tissue of the nailbed. So now that finger is out of commission and its neighbor the left hand middle finger (no puns or jokes please) is now doing double shift duty for that finger. So if you can, I kindly ask you to reach into your soul for a little bit of understanding before you judge people for suggesting that other people undertake a bit of the thoughtful action it takes to think out what you want for a search and then selecting where you want to search for it like anything else you want to look for, that other people take on a frequent basis, sometimes seaching for a week (seven days, 168 hours) before finding what we want instead of a mere 7 hours 50 minutes from 06:51 AM to 02:41 PM. There are some Total War mod developers and fans who are frequenters on the forums spending 12 waking hours a day on them, but many, many, many check in around once a day, sometimes every two days and only having enough time to read up on a few new threads other people posted. Quite, quite often they respond on them with the honest intention of helping somebody without getting any benefit in return. It's true.

i posted there but no body cared to reply, looks like its hopeless.

So think again if you still seriously hold this to be your official opinion, it's a claim against everyone else who is reading it and implying that they are uncaring enough to ever respond. LestaT was pointing you out in a positive direction - a better answer is found somewhere else on these huge forums than he can give, and to find that better answer it is better that you can do a better job at seaching for "mod faction name" and/or "mod faction unit" and/or "merge faction mod" in the Search option, restricting your search to different sections of the forums - Mod Tutorials would be best. Hundreds and hundreds of other modders, professional and amateur like myself learned how to do it by searching and finding at least one good guide somebody made without expecting any benefit in return.

I am indeed responding to two people at once so don't take the entire post here personally, and please don't take it personally at all. So in the end of a very long post, which I apologize for and sincerely thank you for taking the time to read it -

Yes, modding takes brainpower. It's hard for all people - even geniuses. Ask any modder if it's easy.
Yes, searching takes brainpower. It is not easy either.
Yes, searching takes effort.
Yes, there are real jerks out there who make the whole community look bad and make your life miserable.

At that the Medieval 2 data is much easier and clearer to mod than many games out there - just try modding Mount & Blade, I couldn't begin to really mod that game. Here the data is presented in simple code and language that yes, with lots of time and patience, is possible for most people to work with. It's hard work. It's hard work. Yes, it is indeed, hard work. (Not Quote: Pres. George W. Bush )

So bear in mind for one person who took the time and patience to respond, already took me about forty minutes given the circumstances, but I promise you it'll take me upwards of about five to ten hours to walk you through the process and iron out any problems and I am NOT a modder, JUST a player who happens to have done a LOT of searching and reading -

[Dewy]

Faris, that would of answer his question me thinks. I wouldn't joke about your finger My finger is worst, trust me a basketball and a hand can do alot of damage. Lets just say it would look better cut off its that bent:hmmm:

[Faris ad Din]

God that has to hurt, all the time. I'm lucky the bone and joints weren't damaged. The nailbed however will be months.

As to the modding question... I'll do a search later FOR HunterKiller and save the time. *shrug*

[Dewy]

offtopic, but i damaged the growth plate

[HunterKiller]

guyz, i did search in the model modding forums for ayyubids and found nothing important, and i looked at the stickies, then a little bit at the posts below then my mom came and yelled at my face to leave the pc and go study for the exam i have tomorrow "which is to day now" so i left up a post fast and went away, when i ment "its hopeless" i ment that it cant be done mergin ayyubids into vanilla, thats why i thought no body replied, like they read, they dont know the answer, so they didn't reply, that what i thought

about the stages that faris told me about, as today i have exam, tomorro i think i will be free and i will give a try searching for the keywords u gave me, sounds much better to me

Lets just say it would look better cut off its that bent

God that has to hurt, all the time. I'm lucky the bone and joints weren't damaged. The nailbed however will be months.

GUYZ GIVE ME A BREAK XD

[AngryTitusPullo]

Don't 'search' using the search function. Search the easy way by reading the title of the thread.

You want to add new units to existing faction ?

Total War Center Forums > Medieval II: Total War > Mod Workshop > Tools, Tutorials, and Resources

Mod Workshop is where you want to go to learn about modding.

There's tools sections, tutorials section and everything.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92488

[HunterKiller]

hey guyz i looked at ths :
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92488
and i didn't find something matching my needs, i didn't know that it was soo impossible, i only found 3 topics similar to mine, adding new faction "which copy stuff from other faction like france and add units from other faction from the same version", adding new faction from nothing "which isn't totaly from nothing it just take its units from mercenarians" and adding a faction "which is about removing a faction from SS and adding another faction from the same mod" there were never adding a faction from a mod to vanilla or an other.

thank u all