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    Default How Communist Russia Is Today?

    So yeah, is Russia actually still Communist? Can it be compared to China?


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    Fail. All I can say. The answer is obvious....

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    Almost not at all? Only a few companies like gazprom are owned by the state, and thats more because they dont want foreigners exploiting their oil .
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy34543 View Post
    Almost not at all? Only a few companies like gazprom are owned by the state, and thats more because they dont want foreigners exploiting their oil .
    And rightfully so. I don't think the Russian natural resources should be exploited by private companies who can barely be regulated.

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    Then how come people are still calling Russia Communist and stuff?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Then how come people are still calling Russia Communist and stuff?
    Just a guess:
    They are ing dumb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Then how come people are still calling Russia Communist and stuff?
    Cause they are Russophobic haters. If Russia was seen as the most rich, free and democratic country in the world by evey international organization, the Russophobes would still call it a dictatorial regime where the people starve and rot with the dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Fanatic :) View Post
    Cause they are Russophobic haters. If Russia was seen as the most rich, free and democratic country in the world by evey international organization, the Russophobes would still call it a dictatorial regime where the people starve and rot with the dogs.
    Though you wouldn't really know as you live safely in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norge View Post
    Though you wouldn't really know as you live safely in Canada.
    I still have family and contacts in Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankren View Post
    Then how come people are still calling Russia Communist and stuff?

    Presumably only because Russia is now once again being overly aggressive, just like it was during the Soviet era.

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    Russia isn`T communist anymore.

    And arguabley neither is China.


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    Then how come people are still calling Russia Communist and stuff
    Because words like communist, Zionist and Fascist have a "evil" spin to them rather then actually reffering to a persons political opinion like they should be.
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    Russia has, if anything, been more capitalist than the "West" for a while now... in the sense of unfettered, anything-goes Hobbesian Jungle, which should really just remind everybody why sensible states reined theirs in way back and as a result didn't suffer from wholesale popular uprisings but rather a greatly improved standard of living.

    Anyway, it's been getting worrisomely autocratic under Putin but that's hardly very related.

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    Take a walk in any major city and see the wealth disparity for yourself. Rich businessmen (whose wealth is more than likely illgotten) have superflash cars, apartments etc, while regular people work for them and live as best they could. Looks pretty capitalist to me.

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    The snarky might add that it sounds pretty Third World, and that things weren't actually that different back during Soviet days... the guys in black cars with tinted windows just were Party bigshots etc. rather than filthy rich nouveau riche or gangsters (and the line between those is wont to be a little on the blurry side there AFAIK...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    The snarky might add that it sounds pretty Third World, and that things weren't actually that different back during Soviet days...
    It is extremely different..

    the guys in black cars with tinted windows just were Party bigshots etc.
    Or doctors. Or jurists. Or engineers. Or administrators.

    What point are you trying to make? That those who worked hard succeeded? Or that those who worked hard shouldn't be allowed to live well?

    If anything, Soviet middle class was very large.

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    From an uninvolved outsider's purely personal perspective, I feel that even Soviet Bolshevism would be better than what they have right now. Autocratic, totalitarian regime blinding people with materialism full of nationalist, chauvanistic dogmatism...... Otto von Habsburg cannot be more correct when he called Putin a contemporary Hitler. At least under Soviet system, there weren't skinheads strolling around the streets attacking foreigners or immigrants.


    Do you actually have any kind of idea what you are talking about? Or do you find posting worthless BS like this fun?

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    He thinks that Soviet Union liberated Eastern-Europe. That kind of fanatic.
    Soviet Union did liberate Eastern Europe from the Nazis.

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    Your sig is pretty funny. They tried communism in 20th century, and in the end, it failed miserably.
    USSR failed because the entire capitalist world wanted it to die.
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    Middle class in Russia is growing. Although capitalism still shows its negative influence.

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    Default Re: How Communist Russia Is Today?

    Most would counter that Soviet Communism still shows its negative influence too. And some historians postulate that so does the belated abolition of serfdom way back, as that appears to have screwed up a fair few other states too.

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    Middle class has very little to do with how capitalist or communist a country is.

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    Default Re: How Communist Russia Is Today?

    Yeah China isn't communist. It's a closet capitalist.

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