Roma Surrectum 2: Hellenistic Generals preview

[torzsoktamas]

Superb skins!!! Well done RS team!!!

[pcp]

are there some numidian units? ....something garamantine warrior?

[Flodin]

very beautiful skins, Great work !!!!!!!

[danova]

very good job!
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[SigniferOne]

These guys are looking good. Assuming Keravnos was the advisor on the breastplates, I had a question to him on the evidence for these decorations, specifically actual breastplates if any have survived. I've seen Phillip's cuirass, and it was completely without any ornamentation.

Also some of the helmets, particularly Pergamese and subsequent ones, look VERY Roman. I know the theory that some Roman helmets go back to the so-called "Attic" type, but Attic helmets did not have a completely Roman shape, while these match Roman helmets to the t: the curving back, the space for ears, the shape of the side flaps, etc.

[Ballacraine]

These guys are looking good. Assuming Keravnos was the advisor on the breastplates, I had a question to him on the evidence for these decorations, specifically actual breastplates if any have survived. I've seen Phillip's cuirass, and it was completely without any ornamentation.

Also some of the helmets, particularly Pergamese and subsequent ones, look VERY Roman. I know the theory that some Roman helmets go back to the so-called "Attic" type, but Attic helmets did not have a completely Roman shape, while these match Roman helmets to the t: the curving back, the space for ears, the shape of the side flaps, etc.

On the breast plate issue, I would like to put forward something that just occurred to me.

I suppose it was possible that there was 'dress armour' & battle armour for generals & officers at least? :hmmm:

[Keravnos]

These guys are looking good. Assuming Keravnos was the advisor on the breastplates, I had a question to him on the evidence for these decorations, specifically actual breastplates if any have survived. I've seen Phillip's cuirass, and it was completely without any ornamentation.

Also some of the helmets, particularly Pergamese and subsequent ones, look VERY Roman. I know the theory that some Roman helmets go back to the so-called "Attic" type, but Attic helmets did not have a completely Roman shape, while these match Roman helmets to the t: the curving back, the space for ears, the shape of the side flaps, etc.

2 exquisitely ornamented statue torsos found in Athens archaeological Museum. They are not Roman.



This is one. It is mounted. A big gorgoneion is depicted in the cuirass.

So far as the helmets are concerned, there was so much interaction and evolution between the two worlds, prior to Roman conquest that it is just impossible to tell what is Hellenistic and what is Roman.

So far as the sphynx helmet is concerned, I disagree. There are depictions of such helmets centuries before anything of Roman construction is shown.

[SigniferOne]

2 exquisitely ornamented statue torsos found in Athens archaeological Museum. They are not Roman.

This is one. It is mounted. A big gorgoneion is depicted in the cuirass.

How do we know it isn't Roman? Seeing its similarity to so many Roman cuirasses, and considering that Greeks were really unlikely to prefer marble/stone to bronze, opinion should incline towards Roman provenance unless shown otherwise.

So far as the helmets are concerned, there was so much interaction and evolution between the two worlds, prior to Roman conquest that it is just impossible to tell what is Hellenistic and what is Roman.

I guess I'm asking if we have any surviving definitively non-Roman "Gallic A" etc Imperial-style helmets (because those helmets to me look Imperial...).

[D.B. Cooper]

Did the Cimbri really wear bearskins on their heads?

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

So...beautiful...

[St.Gabriel]

wow the details are works of the gods indeed amazing wish you could guys teach me how ot to that.

[Zephyrus]

No spartan general?

[tone]

He uses a different model.

[cocobongoclub-DJ]

Awesome, as usual. Are they 1024 pix or reduced to 512 pix skins ? ...

[tone]

These are 1024 cos there's so much to fit in.

[cherryfunk]

That's what she said.

(Sorry...)

[D.B. Cooper]

^^ LoL.

I like what I'm seeing guys.

[naeblis]

That's what she said.

(Sorry...)

I'll have you know she WAS trying to spare my feelings. Thanks for bring it up again Cherryfunk...

[kekesvar.bingos]

Beautiful amazing gorgeous skins... But what are those "face" symbols on most of shields - what's the "story" behind them? It looks like some french 17th century decoration stuff... Why they dont have some other symbols? Thanks for the answer

[Tony83]

Those models are just too incredible for words! They are amazing guys, truly amazing! Congrats to you all! To anyone who wants to move to Med II for the better graphics, I'd say don't bother mate, don't bother. This is where it's at!