Custom missions for different factions

**Santeri** · January 05, 2009, 05:05 AM

I heard that it's posible to make custom missions to each factions. These missions are not main missions but they ain't small missions eather. They should have som historical accuracy from books.
So I made a new thread if someone else have good suggestions for missions from books.

Mordor:
Take Carn Dúrn to under control. This should have done when is year 1300. (I'm not sure which year campaing starts so hard to say when mission start.)
Award: Lots of troops to Carn Dúrn and maybe some new AOR units. When Witch king get to Car Dúrn hi should get ancillar: Witch king of Angmar +2 command when attaching men factions, +1 hit points and +2 cruel.

Make castle to Dol Guldur
Dol guldur should be some re-named village of Wood elves (or just rebels). Then Mordor should take it before year 2460 and make it castle. When Mordor has taken it name is Dol Guldur.
Award: some orcs to Dol Guldur and effects Wood elf regions culture.
(This is just suggeston)

Isengard:
Become evil Faction.
Award: get some uruk hai troops. Faction leader get ancillar: Evil +3 cruel.
(If someone know some years or something else about this mission you are free to tell.)

When Isengard has become evil:
Conquer Fangorn
Award: some gold (or what ever there is in money).
In Fangorn there should be mines what are called lumber mills if it's posible.

Destroy Rohan.
Mission stops in year 3019.
Award: some gold.
I don't think destroing Rohan should be only main mission of isengard becouse If Saruman have succsed destoying rohan he probebly attach to Gondor.

Orc of the misty mountains:
Take moria. Need some information if someone knows!

Rohan:

(Only if Isengard is evil) Pring king to helms deep and keep it there in year 3019
Award: get some infantry to helms deep and rohirims and Eomer apeard to somwhere in rohan.

Wood elves

(Only if Isengard is evil) Asist Rohan
Some general have to fight against isengard. (It should be like in teutonic and crusader when english and france kings arrived)
Award: ?

To many factions:

The Battle of Five Armies:
Factions: Orc of the misty mountains, Wood elves, Dwarves, Dale.
When Smaug dies in books there should apear Smaugs treasure somwhere near erebor.
That faction who get there first should get award: 8000 gold.
Smaugs trasure could be small town or somthing and if someone go there before smaug has die there should come event: ''Smaug has attached your army.'' When that hapends army lose half of his mens and have flee back.

**Landkreuzer ratte** · January 05, 2009, 06:09 AM

Sounds good !
Gondor should take west osgiliath at year ????.

**Santeri** · January 05, 2009, 02:28 PM

I don't know when Gondor take Osgiliath back but Mordor destoy it in year 2745 which olso could be mission...

More missions:

Wood elves:
Re-take Dol Guldur. This mission should start year when mordor conquer it or when game start. It should have no time limit becouse Caladriel conquer it after third age. When Wood elves have taken it it name should chance to Amon Lanc.
Award: Positive effects to Mirkwood cultur.

Mordor:
Destoy Arnor. When mordor has taken Carn Dúrn next mission should be to destroy settlements like Fornost, Bree and Amon Sul (When Mordor take Amon Sul it should become to wheatertop). Maybe some other settlements from Arnor too.
Award: more units from every settlement to Carn Dúrn. (like in Britania campaign Wales.)

Destroy Lórien. The point of Dol Guldur was to destroy Lórien so this mission start when Mordor take control of Dol Gludur or start of the campaing. Need more information if someone knows!
Award: ???

Evil factions:
Destroy Minas Tirith. Ends in year 3019. This mission could be as ''crusade'' too and it would be very good if it were as ''crusade'' what comes every time when play.
Award: ???
If faction don't join in crusade: worse relations with Sauron.

Gondor, eriador and high elves:
Destoy angmar. Mission start when mordor has taken Carn Dúrn and it end in year 1975. To ''destroy'' angmar they should take some settlements like Fornost, Bree, Amon Sul and Carn Dúrn. Maybe som other settlements from Arnor too. This also could maybe be as ''crusade''.
Award: ???

Rhun:
Conquer erebor. I'm not sure about time, but i know they siege erebor in third age so I hope someone have some more information.
Award: Lots of gold.

Attach to Mirkvood. Sauron told Rhun to attach against to Thundardul but they were too busy with dwarves. (Really they where in dwarven strip clubs

) This is too one of them which i don't have much information so any help will be needed.
Award: better relations with Sauron.
If not done: worse relations with Sauron.

Rohan:
Assist Gondor. Assist Gondor when ''crusade'' against Minas Tirith starts. Ends in year 3019.
Award: better relations with Gondor and berhaps something more.

**nic1794** · January 05, 2009, 04:25 PM

eh i doubt the dev. will like the idea.... u shud be able to create yur own middle history not follow a specific time line. besides..arnor isnt in the game.. what if i want rhun to attack mordor from behind instead of attack erebor? besides alot of these missions are really pointless and after taking dol guldor mordor wud not head to lorien. they wud attack men.

**EddieTheTrooper** · January 05, 2009, 05:22 PM

I think those would fit very well in as optional missions

That way you could create your own story or follow the real course of actions

**STELLover** · January 05, 2009, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by EddieTheTrooper

I think those would fit very well in as optional missions

That way you could create your own story or follow the real course of actions

Yeah, good progress so far. We will have to wait on the Dev decision in incorporating these missions

**alexej** · January 05, 2009, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by nic1794

eh i doubt the dev. will like the idea.... u shud be able to create yur own middle history not follow a specific time line. besides..arnor isnt in the game.. what if i want rhun to attack mordor from behind instead of attack erebor? besides alot of these missions are really pointless and after taking dol guldor mordor wud not head to lorien. they wud attack men.

playing any good faction i will try to ally with other good factions and fight Enemy (or enemies) together. In case of playing Rhun or Harad i am in mood to try make peace with good factions and crush Mordor too

Its in me and it cant be resisted

**nic1794** · January 05, 2009, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by alexej

playing any good faction i will try to ally with other good factions and fight Enemy (or enemies) together. In case of playing Rhun or Harad i am in mood to try make peace with good factions and crush Mordor too

Its in me and it cant be resisted

haha nice.

but like thats what im saying

what if you want to be the elves. and destroy the dwarves and dale.

with these quests it makes it alot harder and restricts gameplay.

**alexej** · January 06, 2009, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by nic1794

haha nice.

but like thats what im saying

what if you want to be the elves. and destroy the dwarves and dale.

with these quests it makes it alot harder and restricts gameplay.

Never trust an elf ! (Gimly, son of Gloin - Council of Elrond in Imladris)

**King Théoden** · January 10, 2009, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by alexej

Never trust an elf ! (Gimly, son of Gloin - Council of Elrond in Imladris)

you should put this in the thread "quotes"

**Santeri** · January 06, 2009, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by nic1794

haha nice.

but like thats what im saying

what if you want to be the elves. and destroy the dwarves and dale.

with these quests it makes it alot harder and restricts gameplay.

And how it makes it harder? They are not main missions so you don't have to do them. They just give you some rewards. And with these missions AI could follow the story too.

**Friedrich Barbarossa** · January 06, 2009, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Santeri

And how it makes it harder? They are not main missions so you don't have to do them. They just give you some rewards. And with these missions AI could follow the story too.

Does the AI get Missions from Pope or the Council in Vanilla ? And if so, does the AI try to succes them ?
If so this would be great to lead the AI Factions in some way :hmmm:

**nic1794** · January 06, 2009, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Santeri

And how it makes it harder? They are not main missions so you don't have to do them. They just give you some rewards. And with these missions AI could follow the story too.

u just proved my point.

it doesnt make it any harder. just annoying.

it makes u follow a specific guideline instead of creating your own.

**jakk o'slovakk** · January 07, 2009, 09:00 AM

I think too that missions like thi would be good. If you don't like them you don't have to do them. Or there could be an option so you could choose do you want them or not. I still don't think that they will be on first release but good idea. And to Friedrich Barbarossa ai gets at least crusade missions in Vanilla.

**grumpygoat** · January 08, 2009, 08:52 AM

I also noticed venice tries to attack Durazzo asap in vanilla, when playing as Venice my first mission was always to take Durazzo. Maybe they do get missions?

**gracul** · January 08, 2009, 01:24 PM

Hate to disturb this discussion but you can only have variations of the missions that are in vanilla. Coding totally new missions is impossible from what i know.

**jakk o'slovakk** · January 11, 2009, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by gracul

Hate to disturb this discussion but you can only have variations of the missions that are in vanilla. Coding totally new missions is impossible from what i know.

It is? Too bad because santeri had really good idea.

**Santeri** · January 11, 2009, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mithrandir the Istari

Missions given by Sauron or an equivalent of "The Council of Nobles" is very possible. However, someone has to come up with good suggestions for not only the missions, but the specific rewards and a deadline. Retaking Carn Dûm would work for Mordor, but Dol Guldur (I'm assunimg you mixed up Minas Morgul and Dol Guldur, judging by the description) is already a part of that faction.

You're free to suggest as many missions as you want, but make sure to state specific rewards, occurrance dates (I'm not sure, but it might be possible to make them be random), as well as the amount of turns you have to complete them. Finally, always remember to keep the freedom of the player, and don't make the rewards all too big. :original:

I was going to post this after graculs post but then I didn't find it...

**cherryfunk** · January 08, 2009, 02:30 PM

Some good ideas here...

**gracul** · January 11, 2009, 05:41 PM

That in no way is going against my word. For example you have a mission in vanilla "take settlement", you can change it to "capture a specific region" (Actually the base for it is not the council mission, since with the council mission you cannot control which settlement to take. The base for this mission would be the explorers guild "take settlement"), but you cannot create a mission "Destroy Rohan" because there is no such equivalent mission in vanilla. Just like some of the other missions "Become Evil faction", "Bring king to helms deep".
You can make variations on vanilla missions, not completely new missions.