New Spain Disappeared???

**CaeserAugustus** · January 03, 2009, 05:48 PM

Well I have been playing the americas campaign and the weirdest things have been happening.
1. I have had about 10 armies and three generals betray me in almost as many turns.

Wondering if this is glitching or apaches are meant to be like that.
2. Sometimes it won't let me have my army march to a spot outside my territory or their immediate range. Unless they're in the green or my lands it has an X.
3. The last and by far the weirdest thing has been that New Spain completely disappeared in one turn. One turn they're expanding and keeping the mayans at bay

and the next all their settlements are rebel and the mayans are expanding like mad.

Its early on in the campaign and they had like 5 regions and even cuba rebelled.

Any thoughts?

**Surgeon** · January 03, 2009, 06:59 PM

1. On VH I had frequent problems with betrayal while playing as Apaches and Tarascans. Seems to be some sort of feature for the Americas.
2. Are you trying to move them into a completely unexplored (black) area? If I recall correctly you can't do that, you'd have to move closer to reveal the area first.
3. Sounds like their royal family died.

**Leckan** · January 03, 2009, 08:07 PM

Think they just start with like 2-3 generals? So would be kinda unlucky if all died.. somehow

**Tricky557** · January 03, 2009, 09:19 PM

1) Check the loyalty of your remaining generals. You might just have gotten some bad luck with them.
2) Surgeon is right on this point.
3)Surgeon is also probly right on this point.

**France** · January 03, 2009, 09:23 PM

Royal family probably died.

**King_Arthur** · January 09, 2009, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by France

Royal family probably died.

Yep

**Alla** · January 04, 2009, 05:18 AM

Should be in Kingdoms.

**Callawyn** · January 04, 2009, 05:56 PM

1. Armies rebelling is based on the Authority level of your faction leader, the loyalty of the General/Captain, and random%. Captains have awful loyalty. If your faction leader has very low Authority, expect to see this happen a lot. There's a variety of ways to raise his Authority, the quickest/easiest involve having him lead your armies in combat often. Its much easier to get your faction leader a Authority than to increase the Loyalty of your Generals (and impossible for Captains).

**Double A** · January 05, 2009, 04:18 AM

Aside from cheats. That brings up another point. Can you give captains traits with cheats?

Anyway, the Apache chief has crap for authority as I recall... and his son is about as loyal as the Roman Senate.

**Alla** · January 05, 2009, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Double A

Aside from cheats. That brings up another point. Can you give captains traits with cheats?

Anyway, the Apache chief has crap for authority as I recall... and his son is about as loyal as the Roman Senate.

In a nut shell... No.