Roma Surrectum 2.0: Cimbri Faction Preview

[CHERNOBOG]

i was wondering if you are going to post the cimbri and the ptolemaics unit cards in the unit card preview?

[Gerald The Herald]

Oh gawd. Arnspac, did you know I LOVE YOU!?!
You made me a very joyous kid this day, RS team.
'Tis even better than a highly-motivational monosaccharide sugar rush.
Can't wait to make those puny, pompous romani swine flee before my semi-germanic horde of migrating warriors. RAWR!

[Ballacraine]

Oh gawd. Arnspac, did you know I LOVE YOU!?!
You made me a very joyous kid this day, RS team.
'Tis even better than a highly-motivational monosaccharide sugar rush.
Can't wait to make those puny, pompous romani swine flee before my semi-germanic horde of migrating warriors. RAWR!

NURSE! NURSE!

Gerald's on a rampage again!

[Arnspac]

Oh gawd. Arnspac, did you know I LOVE YOU!?!
You made me a very joyous kid this day, RS team.
'Tis even better than a highly-motivational monosaccharide sugar rush.
Can't wait to make those puny, pompous romani swine flee before my semi-germanic horde of migrating warriors. RAWR!

[HMonk]

Great Work Guys!! Great work

[Gerald The Herald]

Btw, I thoroughly approve of "Carmina Burana O Fortuna" as the intro tune
Adds to the sense of danger, peril and action inherent when playing as the Germani.
Sadly however, I'm still going to either play mozart's Andante 21 Piano concerto or his 'Dies Irae' whilst playing them, I just DISLIKE the overuse of the piece recently in media; don't get me wrong, the music in RS 2 is SUPERB enough to make the great baroque/classical composers of their day envious, but I just kinda..expected Carmina as a theme piece for the barbarians.
Seemed predictable..suitable nonetheless

[Ballacraine]

Btw, I thoroughly approve of "Carmina Burana O Fortuna" as the intro tune
Adds to the sense of danger, peril and action inherent when playing as the Germani.
Sadly however, I'm still going to either play mozart's Andante 21 Piano concerto or his 'Dies Irae' whilst playing them, I just DISLIKE the overuse of the piece recently in media; don't get me wrong, the music in RS 2 is SUPERB enough to make the great baroque/classical composers of their day envious, but I just kinda..expected Carmina as a theme piece for the barbarians.
Seemed predictable..suitable nonetheless

Yes, not inappropriate....

A bit of a pot boiler though.

[Giovi]

wow awesome as always

[melqart]

Wow...Very very beautiful skins and interesting text. I would even pay for a mod like this.....Bravissimi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cherryfunk]

Btw, I thoroughly approve of "Carmina Burana O Fortuna" as the intro tune

Eek, is that what we're using? That piece was an overused cliche back when Stone put it in the Doors in the early nineties...

[Arnspac]

Eek, is that what we're using? That piece was an overused cliche back when Stone put it in the Doors in the early nineties...

Well actually I asked Maxim to edit the first 2:30 of Carmina as it timed roughly through to the Ptolemie Map. Barbarian March was for ambience. Other choices could have been from The 13th Warrior.........
Something different.

[Ian Altano]

Awesome preview!

[Blackshamrock.]

haha

[Germanicus J.]

gaesatte took a form of methamphetamine if i can remember correctly

[Arnspac]

Just some added food for thought....
This was my original preamble, which I tossed, as it didn't fit well with team discussions and direction.

The Cimbri were an enigma. Known to have resided in the area of present day County of Himmerland, Denmark, on the Northern part of the Jutland peninsula, detailed historical references still argue as to whether they were German or Celts.

They are also known to have wandered over the centuries. Tales of these fierce warriors come from Spain , Greece , Turkey , Bulgaria, Romania , Iran, Russia and Poland.

The Cimbri became the scourge of the land bordering the Romans between 113 to 101 BC. They were of gigantic stature, fair complexion with long yellow hair and large blue eyes. They were seen glaring ferociously from beneath a headdress garnished with the grinning tusks of a boar, or the horns of a wild bull. Some glower from beneath a cowl made from the fur of some other wild beast. The religion of these fierce warriors accorded with their other rude habits.

Their tribal confederates were the Teutones , Ambrones, Boii and the Helvetti, all of which were considered Celtic in origin. The known Cimbri Chiefs were, Boiorix ( King of the Celtic Boii tribe of Italy and Bohemia), Gaesorix, (King of the Gaesatae , Rhone Valley Celts from Gaul) and Lugius, named after the Celtic god Lugh.

According to Hubert (1934) ‘All these names are Celtic, and cannot be anything else.’, however Wells (1995) states; ‘ the Cimbri, originally from Denmark, the Cimbric peninsula , are certainly not Celts..’. But to really get the juices flowing, let us throw in a couple of ‘historical’ arguments shall we ?


A hypothesis is presented (with much supporting evidence) that a migration of Cimbri ended up in the Thracian – Scythian areas between the 8th and 7th centuries BC and were known as the Cimmerians to people of Iran and Assyria. Apparently they were known to Homer and Herodtus [ c.450 BC] a Greek historian who notes they were eventually chased away by the Scythians between 650-600 BC. and headed west.

In ‘ Empires of the Bible’ , 1904, Gomer also states that the Cimmerians were;
’ dispossessed of the country of the Ukraine where we shall find them again. They took possession of the country that is now Germany and Denmark and afterward, accompanied their kindred in the invasion of Italy. The Cimbri ( for that is what the Cimmerii were then called ) and the Gauls form the two branches of the great Celtic race.’ ‘ In the time of Alexander the Great, all western Europe above the river Po and the Pyrenees mountains, and from the plains of the Drave and the Save, to the Baltic Sea was possessed by these two branches of Celts.’

Diodorus Siculus [c. 60 BC], wrote;
Some men say it was they, in ancient times, who overran Asia [Minor] and were called Cimmer-ians – time having corrupted the name to Cimbrians as they are now called…they are the people who captured Rome, being called in time Greco-Gauls, because they mixed with the Greeks.


Perhaps the best way to sum up the Cimbri is from Latham in 1851.. ’ hence I hesitate to commit myself to the doctrine that the Cimbro-Teutons were Gauls at all; what they were being a greater mystery than ever.’

Latham's above statement was actually a correction to a paper he wrote claiming the "Cimbri were Celts and nothing else."
Fascinating stuff.

[ChrisJoker]

Just some added food for thought....
This was my original preamble, which I tossed, as it didn't fit well with team discussions and direction.

The Cimbri were an enigma. Known to have resided in the area of present day County of Himmerland, Denmark, on the Northern part of the Jutland peninsula, detailed historical references still argue as to whether they were German or Celts.

They are also known to have wandered over the centuries. Tales of these fierce warriors come from Spain , Greece , Turkey , Bulgaria, Romania , Iran, Russia and Poland.

The Cimbri became the scourge of the land bordering the Romans between 113 to 101 BC. They were of gigantic stature, fair complexion with long yellow hair and large blue eyes. They were seen glaring ferociously from beneath a headdress garnished with the grinning tusks of a boar, or the horns of a wild bull. Some glower from beneath a cowl made from the fur of some other wild beast. The religion of these fierce warriors accorded with their other rude habits.

Their tribal confederates were the Teutones , Ambrones, Boii and the Helvetti, all of which were considered Celtic in origin. The known Cimbri Chiefs were, Boiorix ( King of the Celtic Boii tribe of Italy and Bohemia), Gaesorix, (King of the Gaesatae , Rhone Valley Celts from Gaul) and Lugius, named after the Celtic god Lugh.

According to Hubert (1934) ‘All these names are Celtic, and cannot be anything else.’, however Wells (1995) states; ‘ the Cimbri, originally from Denmark, the Cimbric peninsula , are certainly not Celts..’. But to really get the juices flowing, let us throw in a couple of ‘historical’ arguments shall we ?


A hypothesis is presented (with much supporting evidence) that a migration of Cimbri ended up in the Thracian – Scythian areas between the 8th and 7th centuries BC and were known as the Cimmerians to people of Iran and Assyria. Apparently they were known to Homer and Herodtus [ c.450 BC] a Greek historian who notes they were eventually chased away by the Scythians between 650-600 BC. and headed west.

In ‘ Empires of the Bible’ , 1904, Gomer also states that the Cimmerians were;
’ dispossessed of the country of the Ukraine where we shall find them again. They took possession of the country that is now Germany and Denmark and afterward, accompanied their kindred in the invasion of Italy. The Cimbri ( for that is what the Cimmerii were then called ) and the Gauls form the two branches of the great Celtic race.’ ‘ In the time of Alexander the Great, all western Europe above the river Po and the Pyrenees mountains, and from the plains of the Drave and the Save, to the Baltic Sea was possessed by these two branches of Celts.’

Diodorus Siculus [c. 60 BC], wrote;
Some men say it was they, in ancient times, who overran Asia [Minor] and were called Cimmer-ians – time having corrupted the name to Cimbrians as they are now called…they are the people who captured Rome, being called in time Greco-Gauls, because they mixed with the Greeks.


Perhaps the best way to sum up the Cimbri is from Latham in 1851.. ’ hence I hesitate to commit myself to the doctrine that the Cimbro-Teutons were Gauls at all; what they were being a greater mystery than ever.’

Latham's above statement was actually a correction to a paper he wrote claiming the "Cimbri were Celts and nothing else."
Fascinating stuff.

germanic celtic cletic germanic but then what is germanic then wats germanic celtic but but

[Arnspac]

That's why we snuggled up to our old buddy Tacitus.

[ChrisJoker]

Lots and lots of information Arnspac

[Ballacraine]

germanic celtic cletic germanic but then what is germanic then wats germanic celtic but but

Confusing isn't it!

Then again, you can add to that, that the problem has always been there & still is. Most languages will have different names for the same peoples.
It depends who is writing the history.

That said it is a bit of a oddity that Germanics, supposedly predominantly blond ( 'Aryan' or is that another red herring? ) should be confused with the predominantly raven haired Celts.

Then again my historical knowledge is sketchy at best. :hmmm:

[Cyrus the Virus]

germanic celtic cletic germanic but then what is germanic then wats germanic celtic but but

Germans was just a Roman word for people east of the Rhine, aka where their empire eventually would stretch to and not further.