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    Default Spartans out of Shape?

    So I realized that my Spartans were marching very slowly in one of my battles. Then I, of course, realized that so were all of my other units. I came to the conclusion that this is part of your modification and I immediately understood your rationale for this.

    However consider this:

    I am in the military and during my time in Basic Training we had to march/hike several miles whilst carrying all of our gear(approximately 40 pounds). Of course we were marching at about double the rate I saw my troops in the game move. And I know special forces like Rangers and Para-Rescue have it MUCH more difficult than I did. And wouldn't one conclude that Spartans are definitely in as good of shape(I would think more so) than modern special forces? (who have to run while carrying 40-60 pounds while in in-doc training)

    Ancient soldiers, generally speaking, did not march that slow unless they were in a phalanx formation.

    So then, make a fancy looking phalanx formation for my troops or please tell me how to set it back to vanilla/other speeds.

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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    was it at the start of a battle? or at the end of one? this makes difference becous thy will get tired at the end of one. i don' t know if thy are set to march slower in this mod or faster in vanilla but i don' t think any thing has changed on there marching speed, maybe it is some thing else?
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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    Try to play a custom battle with a spartan unit and see if there is any diffrence from the campign. Could just be a bug for that specific battle try another battle in campign aswell with your unit. Im not sure if there have been any changes regarding marching in 7.0.

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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    Ah, found it. This is from the txt file descr_battle_map_movement_modifiers

    climate default

    grass_short 0.85
    grass_long 0.8
    sand 0.8
    rock 0.8
    forest_dense 0.6
    scrub_dense 0.8
    swamp 0.55
    mud 0.7
    mud_road 0.8
    stone_road 0.85
    water 0.5
    ice 0.55
    snow 0.5

    just have to change to values here to change unit speed

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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    i think lt changed the speed so spartans won' t run to fast becous if thy start running at the beginning of a battle thy will get exhausted to soon. i am not realy sure about this but it is possible i think.
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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    Check if they were tired?

    And I think you'd better lleave it like it is
    LT balanced everything very well, I don't think you would like to unbalance it

    But I have never heard of this before, so I wonder what it was? :hm:
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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    wow did realize sand was so easy to walk through ingame..

    equipped with armour on, in life i imagine it would be quite treacherous to march an army through sand

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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    @ReichMaster: yes, yes it would be.

    I did change it so that the normal value is 1. I like it much better. This changes the default marching speed of all units and if you don't like it just change it back. Worked for me.

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    Default Re: Spartans out of Shape?

    He found what he wanted, obviously he is found of the cartoon zooming that the units do at higher speeds. Units fought in tight groups they didnt go running around like we do today. Go to west point or amazon.com and check out some books on Ancient warfare.

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