Healed troops

**lordextra0** · December 29, 2008, 06:53 PM

how is it determined wether someone is dead or wounded?
asking this because the last battle I fought was with lots of heavy cav on my side and most of them fell during battle but in the end I had only lost like 150 men(during battle like 400 fell)
I'm using SS 6.1(actually 6.2 rc3) RR/RC +CBUR+BFTB+BIGIV with big ai

**~~Obliterate76~~** · December 29, 2008, 10:36 PM

I'm not sure but I've always sorta wondered on the side how the heck stuff like that gets figured out. I mean, you literally see them get shot by a Monster Bombard and the aftermath, shows something along the lines of 5 dead 9 wounded. I don't know.

**lordextra0** · December 30, 2008, 01:19 AM

thanks for the answer
thats true, how can someone who gets hit by half a ton of stone be "wounded"
they probably count as wounded as long as they didn't realize they were dead
lol I often found myself even leading armies of mostly"undead"(people hit by artillery and burnt to death by trebuchet bullets etc.)
well lets just hope someone who knows see this thread and answers

**Aenima** · December 30, 2008, 08:47 AM

im pretty sure it depends what takes them down. AFAIK missile kills and lighter infantry kills tend to get healed more since they're not getting torn to pieces (compare getting shot by an arrow or stabbed by a spear to getting smashed in the face by a zweihander and heavy horse) so im pretty sure that determines how well your guys come out of it.

**y2day** · December 30, 2008, 09:00 AM

I can't remember the way the game figures it out, but I'm confident it is unmoddable.

We all looked into this along time ago.

y

**TheLastPrivate** · December 30, 2008, 01:23 PM

Traits like battle surgery or ancillaries like the apocathery increase the chance of wounded recovery.
The chances seem random, rather than death by certain means. I've seen units burned to crisp via mangonels resurrect.

**lordextra0** · December 30, 2008, 06:02 PM

thanks for the answers

**~~Obliterate76~~** · December 30, 2008, 08:04 PM

This thread increasingly helps people understand the game better.

**caralampio** · December 30, 2008, 08:15 PM

An empiric observation, not sure but I have the impression that troops felled by arrows tend to recover more than those killed by melee.

**lordextra0** · December 30, 2008, 08:57 PM

I also ahve the impression that heavily armoured troops felled by low quality troops tend to often recover(as it should be)(example norman knoghts beaten by sudanese spearmen 90% of my norman knoghts got healed)

**Cartman** · December 31, 2008, 06:37 AM

troops suffering from gun or siege weapon fire seem to recover more often than troops that fight close combat, is there anyway to mod this? because it's not very realistic that a man shot or burned to death survives

**Tacitursa** · December 31, 2008, 07:45 AM

I dont think it has anything to do with what happens during the battle itself but rather who wins.

When u win you seem to get a small percentage of your troops back. At least that how it looks to me.

**Cartman** · December 31, 2008, 09:42 AM

yeah maybe..the ai seem to get alot of troops back no matter how they die, but it's diffrent for human players, they usually don't get so many resurections, at least from my own expirence..

**TheLastPrivate** · January 01, 2009, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by Cartman

yeah maybe..the ai seem to get alot of troops back no matter how they die, but it's diffrent for human players, they usually don't get so many resurections, at least from my own expirence..

AI generals get battle hardened trait which gives them extra command,loyalty, and increased battle surgery.

**tuore** · December 31, 2008, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by lordextra0

how is it determined wether someone is dead or wounded?
asking this because the last battle I fought was with lots of heavy cav on my side and most of them fell during battle but in the end I had only lost like 150 men(during battle like 400 fell)
I'm using SS 6.1(actually 6.2 rc3) RR/RC +CBUR+BFTB+BIGIV with big ai

Sorry for off-topic, but what are those mods? RR is real recruitment, but what is BIG IV? And the others?

**lordextra0** · December 31, 2008, 05:40 PM

rc is real combat(rr and rc are together not seperate mods)
CBUR- Complete byzantine unit rooster basically an alternate more historically accurate unit rooster
BFTB is battle for the baltic basically an alternate more historically accurate unit rooster for baltic factions
BYGIV well...well this is BYGIV: http://www.nerazzurri.net/bgr-forum/....php?p=445#445
can download all of them in combination HERE:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...83#post4144483