Phenom II

[Shqiponja_Hayabusa]

So new Phenom II processors are about to come out in what seems pretty soon only early january, and apparently they could be used in amd's amd2 sockets 780g and 790gx chipsets, which is a very good news. Even though from the Amd claim that the real improvement is in the am3 sockets to be used with the new processors. The most certain news is that these quad core processors will go over the 3.0 ghz from the box. Is any one else exited?

[Pickle_mole]

i just got the phenom black edition.....

[TemplarLord]

Very excited over here, but does someone have confirmation about the 780G and 790GX chipsets supporting the new AM3 CPU's? I guess it is true 'cuz even on my M/B's page says that it supports it.

[Jopel]

Exited yes... I have already preordered my Phenom II 945

Currently running Phenom 9850 BE...

@ TemplarLord... they will support it... it is backwards compactible

[King Edward III]

So new Phenom II processors are about to come out in what seems pretty soon only early january, and apparently they could be used in amd's amd2 sockets 780g and 790gx chipsets, which is a very good news. Even though from the Amd claim that the real improvement is in the am3 sockets to be used with the new processors. The most certain news is that these quad core processors will go over the 3.0 ghz from the box. Is any one else exited?

Nice, might upgrade from the Core2.

[Shqiponja_Hayabusa]

Great Jopel, what's the price of this phenom you have preordered?
Can you tell me sth about the performance of your actual processor, since because of it's prize is very appetible.

[Jopel]

The price is € 288,23 where I pre-ordered it (Azerty, company in the Netherlands here ).
Well what can I say about my current processor lol he works damn nice... oc'd it to 4x3,3GHz (as shown in a somewhat older pic. I inserted here, got liquid cooling) and I can trow any game at it (have HD4870 1GB) . Although I must say I currently run @ stock again... due to some maintanance of my rig lol

What else you want to know?

[Saturn]

Hopefully they can keep up with Intel when the next process shrink comes about.

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

Starting in the second half of 2008, AMD is expected to launch a series of 45 nm processors [17]. As of October 2007, only the codenames are known to the public. They are Deneb FX for Phenom FX, Deneb for quad-core processors, Heka for triple-core Phenom processor and Regor for Athlon X2. These processors are expected to be available in late 2008 to early 2009, with the support of DDR3 memory and are expected to have larger shared L3 cache (6 MBytes) as well as the implementation of Socket AM3 for single-processor systems, Socket F+ for dual-processor Quad FX platform[18].
32 nanometer processors It has been stated that 45 nanometer will just be a pit stop for AMD and will move on to 32 nanometer technology by the third quarter of 2009. Currently, AMD Phenom II processors are using the 45nm process technology but in later models will soon use the 32nm process technology with the existing model numbering will be xx0 for 45nm processors while xx5 will be a designation for 32nm processors. Another family of processors the AMD Phenom FX will be using the 32 nanometer process technology and a modified HyperTransport bus that will be running at 7.2GHz on 4 pathways per socket.
AMD Codename HexaFX Platform It has been rumored that AMD will be launching a platform specifically for gamers and enthusiast consisting of 16 processing physical cores that is produced by using two AMD Phenom FX Octo-Core processors. It has also been rumored to support up to 8 GPU's on 4 PCI Express 2.0/3.0 slots. IT has also been stated that the processor will be available in speeds excessing 4GHz and will be available in 4.2GHz, 4.6GHz, 5.2GHz, and 5.5GHz. The processor has also been stated to be the first to be publicly available for third party modification (ex. Like third party graphics card manufacturers EVGA, Gigabyte, XFX, MSI, VisionTek, Diamond etc.) so companies can overclock and sell the processor with their brand name on it. AMD Phenom FX will require an AMD XS motherboard and at least 2GB's of DDR3/DDR4/XVR RAM. One huge improvement that the Phenom FX series will have is larger L3 cache (16MBytes). The Phenom FX series will be using the socket F2+ designation which will have four modified HyperTransport 4.0 pathways per socket. AMD's Phenom's FX series will also have a modified HyperTransport bus revision 4.0 running at 7.2GHz in four pathways per socket. The AMD Phenom FX series will carry the an enhanced integrated memory controller that supports DDR3/DDR4/XVR and integrated 1GB of DDR2 PC2-6400 RAM as cache and storage. The AMD Phenom FX series will also have an integrated advanced physics processing unit with 256MB of memory from the integrated RAM. AMD's Overdrive application will also be integrated into the integrated 1GB RAM and is renamed as AMD Overdrive FX which will manage power consumption, core clock, and heatsink/fan automatically if selected by user via BIOS. The AMD Overdrive application will also automatically instegrate itself into the operating system once it first starts. Additionally, third party processor vendors will be able to use the leftover 512MB integrated RAM (256MB will be reserved for cache) to integrate their own applications and customize AMD's Overdrive FX application.

That seems like a lot of speculation but I would seriously wait to upgrade and maybe just wait until the 8-core Phenom releases, IF, that is not a pile of crap. I think my 9950 is more than sufficient to last until the half of 2009.

[Jopel]

I'm sure he will sufficient enough mate!! You oc'd him? I run @ 3,3GHz...
That are some nice rumeurs... I heard a litle about that on www.tweakers.net, but not that specific!! Well now I'm young (27) and have the money, so let them come ROFL

[Saturn]

It would be great if AMD would compete more with Intel and get back in the game. Lately they have been lacking. With more competition in the market we'll probably see better prices from both Intel and AMD.

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

It would be great if AMD would compete more with Intel and get back in the game. Lately they have been lacking. With more competition in the market we'll probably see better prices from both Intel and AMD.

I won't buy AMD again unless they release a proc that kicks as much ass as the FX-60 did when it launched.

[Shqiponja_Hayabusa]

Just a question about the previous series of phenom being in particular 9850 be, and the fact that I am deciding whether building a rig with Amd or an intel one with 6600. The facts are that the Amd processor is a true quad core and the 6600 are just two dual stuck together. The pross are that It costs 20 euros less than the 6600, it's true quad core architecture, it outperforms the 6600 in some applications, the overall cost of the rig would be less if I build on a 780g ati motherboard, I could upgrade with the same motherboard to a phenom II after the prize drops since 300 Euros I m not willing to spend. The cons are that it's power hungry and consumes much more than the q6600, I ve read sth about multimedia multitasking and looks like the 6600 does better than the Amd one, which I was expecting the other way around. But I guess I ll be going with the Amd rig anyways.

[S.P.Q.R. Praetorian]

Just a question about the previous series of phenom being in particular 9850 be, and the fact that I am deciding whether building a rig with Amd or an intel one with 6600. The facts are that the Amd processor is a true quad core and the 6600 are just two dual stuck together. The pross are that It costs 20 euros less than the 6600, it's true quad core architecture, it outperforms the 6600 in some applications, the overall cost of the rig would be less if I build on a 780g ati motherboard, I could upgrade with the same motherboard to a phenom II after the prize drops since 300 Euros I m not willing to spend. The cons are that it's power hungry and consumes much more than the q6600, I ve read sth about multimedia multitasking and looks like the 6600 does better than the Amd one, which I was expecting the other way around. But I guess I ll be going with the Amd rig anyways.

First of all, with Phenom II being shipped to retailers in about a week or so.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...11070&Itemid=1

It would be rediculous to buy a proc (9950 or 9850 BE) which is going to the chopping block very shortly, as well as, the Phenom II wont be all that expensive, and releases shortly. I also would recommend going with the 790GX mobo by Gigabyte(DS4H). The IGP is a killer and can run games such as COH on very high with about 41 FPS. It would be a good substitute until you can buy a VC of your preference.

[Shqiponja_Hayabusa]

What does "chopping block" mean? So you definitely don't suggest me to go with a 9850 be 150$?
But I heard that the phenoms are going to cost somewhere around the at least 280 euros.

[Jopel]

Search the internet for benchmarks mate Hehe