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    Default Quick food for thought.

    In the Southern U.S., Is it politically incorrect to say Happy Holidays ?

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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    no, people say that or merry Christmas or kwanzaa or what ever..

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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus View Post
    In the Southern U.S., Is it politically incorrect to say Happy Holidays ?
    Are you trying to troll or something?

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    Wait, what?
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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    Southern US? Politically correct? ha! That's a joke.
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    I'm sure some do, but it is perfectly ok to say it merry christmas or whatever(i think)
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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    No one blows a gasket about it here, but people do prefer Merry Christmas. It has always been Merry Christmas so why change it now? Why are you singling out the Southern U.S. anyways?

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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    waht, were you there, said merry christmas, and got punched in the face or something?

    TO my knowledge they don't care, but I don't know because i dont' live there. I do know though that there are a lot of very religious people down there(and everywehre I guess)

    Why ARE you singling out the south of the US?

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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    I think, but I'm not sure, that the OP is trying to point out that what constitutes any realistic account of what is politically correct is not necessarily what is the most 'leftisst' 'pinko' thing to say, but what is the most populist, hence he conjecture that in the American South saying "Merry Christmas" may well be more politically correct than saying "Happy Holidays".

    I think this is a good observation (if I have read it correctly) but a slightly naive one. The term 'politically correct' was coined by the feminist left in the 70s to refer to cultural artifacts that in some sense enshrined their aspirations or values, and was a natural off-shoot of the famous feminist idea that 'the personal is political'. In the 90s it became a buzz word used by the right to mock any use of language that was seen as pandering to minorities and expanded from there into what we see today.

    Frankly I hate the term and welcome any undermining of it as it has become a meaningless buzz-word which relies on reactionary credulity for its results.

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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    I think, but I'm not sure, that the OP is trying to point out that what constitutes any realistic account of what is politically correct is not necessarily what is the most 'leftisst' 'pinko' thing to say, but what is the most populist, hence he conjecture that in the American South saying "Merry Christmas" may well be more politically correct than saying "Happy Holidays".
    That's the gist of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    I think this is a good observation (if I have read it correctly) but a slightly naive one. The term 'politically correct' was coined by the feminist left in the 70s to refer to cultural artifacts that in some sense enshrined their aspirations or values, and was a natural off-shoot of the famous feminist idea that 'the personal is political'. In the 90s it became a buzz word used by the right to mock any use of language that was seen as pandering to minorities and expanded from there into what we see today.
    The point is, is that it goes both ways. For example, When McCain got in close with Pat Robertson and other figures on the Religious right he was doing the PC thing to do. According to his party, and his most likely voters Evangelicals were a bloc that would help preserve social and economic conservatism to the U.S. But McCain had famously called them Agent's of tolerance and had disassociated himself with the very same men years ago.

    In the definition of Adhering to party line, that is politically correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bovril View Post
    Frankly I hate the term and welcome any undermining of it as it has become a meaningless buzz-word which relies on reactionary credulity for its results.
    Ditto.

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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    I understand your point, but don't appreciate your singling out of my home the South

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    Default Re: Quick food for thought.

    nobody would care if you said happy holidays, besides whats the problem with saying merry christmas i know plenty of athiests who say it mostly because christmas isn't really religious anymore

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