Question about Patch 6.2, RC3

**Rhythalion** · December 25, 2008, 05:36 PM

Merry Christmas All! Until recently I just had the vanilla M2TW without Kingdoms, but I asked Santa very nicely (well, Mrs Claus to be more precise) if I could have kingdoms for Xmas. And very luckily ( I must have been a goood boy) I got it

Anyhow, as a result I decided to go from SS4.1 up to SS6.1, but on browsing the forums discovered that there is a 6.2 RC3 patch. My Question is, seeing as I am not a fan of the Army Supply system, and the 6.1 Patch installer has an option to remove it, does the 6.2 RC3 patch make it pointless to uninstall the system as the readme for 6.2 says it fixes some things in the system (spelling or some such). Is that going to mean that 6.2 will put it back IN if I have selected it to be uninstalled in 6.1? :hmmm:

Thanks for any answers, I hope everyone is having a great Xmas.

Rhythalion

Edit -> Also, I didn't try the regular 6.1 install, but with 6.2 RC3 installed the game CTD's whenever choosing France or Norway on the Faction Selection menu for the Early Era Campaign. Is this easy to fix?

**Wildassman** · December 25, 2008, 08:40 PM

Well 6.2 RC3 from my understanding will reinstall the supply system. There is probably a way to remove it yourself if you do a search. You could also wait until 6.2 is finished as it will probably have an option to install it. I have been playing 6.2 RC2 and it is definitely worth installing. It fixes a lot of bugs especially the pirates bug.

You might want to install 6.1 and then 6.2. When choosing a faction only click on 1. If you click on several it will CTD.

**Rhythalion** · December 25, 2008, 11:32 PM

Thanks for your reply, I figured out that little quirk with clicking on multiple factions. I won't try to read em all and find out what their about in future

6.2 RC3 Does in fact reinstall the Army Supply System, its going strong in my current campaign (Early Era). My only problem with the system is I don't like micromanaging the army that much, but its not as if I can't live with it

Aside from the obvious changes in scale, settlements etc from 4.1, the major difference I am noticing is that many of the titles gained by Characters who move into a city (the title system) do not get given straight away. It took around 9 turns for the title for london to be given to my king (I did not move him.. just to see how long it took) but the title for exeter was given in the second turn to the character who started there. Quite odd. Not sure why that would be or why, does anyone know?

**Wildassman** · December 26, 2008, 12:22 AM

Not sure it is very random. Sometimes I get one in one turn, and then others it takes a lot of turns. If you are having problems with supplies, use ships more often. They can resupply some by ending a turn on one.

**lordextra0** · December 26, 2008, 07:51 PM

my ships even seem to resupply wehn the generals are like 2 or 3 tiles away from the ship(useful for taking cities like jerusalem)

**Rhythalion** · December 27, 2008, 05:57 PM

Yah, I just walked/carried by boat a crusading english army down the coast of north africa to attack Cairo, and didn't have any issue from the supply traits (except for my Prince and his Cousin getting Scurvy and my troops being utterly despondent).

They however recieved their titles the very next turn, for Cairo and then for Alexandria, which my Prince seiged and took 2 turns later.

**Byg** · December 28, 2008, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rhythalion

Yah, I just walked/carried by boat a crusading english army down the coast of north africa to attack Cairo, and didn't have any issue from the supply traits (except for my Prince and his Cousin getting Scurvy and my troops being utterly despondent).

They however recieved their titles the very next turn, for Cairo and then for Alexandria, which my Prince seiged and took 2 turns later.

Scurvy has nothing to do with supply traits. It is a feature of blood broads and bastards mod.

**Rhythalion** · December 28, 2008, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Byg

Scurvy has nothing to do with supply traits. It is a feature of blood broads and bastards mod.

Yep, I'm aware of that, but I worded the post wrong; It was really just an observation of what was happening, not a complaint or anything

Even though I normally don't opt to have the supply taits in my game, I reckon you've done a darn good job on them Byg! It is fun to play with them when a bit more immersion is wanted

And i'm definately very glad I got Kingdoms, as really it was just so I could play versions of Stanless Steel after 4.1

**Byg** · December 28, 2008, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by lordextra0

my ships even seem to resupply wehn the generals are like 2 or 3 tiles away from the ship(useful for taking cities like jerusalem)

Hi, that definitely does not happen. If you are on the same turn as you supplied by ship you are probably seeing the message given from when you were on a ship, which remains in a generals traits list until the turn ends.
You may possibly have gained supplies by fighting an army on land and taking that army's supplies.

**wngpooniii** · December 28, 2008, 10:40 AM

hope the mod would be released soon

**lordextra0** · December 29, 2008, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Byg

Hi, that definitely does not happen. If you are on the same turn as you supplied by ship you are probably seeing the message given from when you were on a ship, which remains in a generals traits list until the turn ends.
You may possibly have gained supplies by fighting an army on land and taking that army's supplies.

ok thanks for telling me

I was already wondering what i had overlooked

**wngpooniii** · December 28, 2008, 01:17 AM

what is CTD again? ......

**Tacitursa** · December 28, 2008, 03:09 AM

what is CTD again?

Crash to desktop

Rhythalion , I asked Gracul about this (the guy whos making the patch) and he said things like Supply traits will be optional when you install just like it is with 6.1 patch

**Rhythalion** · December 28, 2008, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Wizav85

Rhythalion , I asked Gracul about this (the guy whos making the patch) and he said things like Supply traits will be optional when you install just like it is with 6.1 patch

Thanks for that

lthough by the time its out i'll probably be quite used to the supply traits and be unable to play without them!