The Shadow of Ishtar - The Beginning

[maxi90]

yes, have one faction in turkey, that´s exacly the reason why i though it would be a good idea. i mean, it is a huge territory full of rebel settlements and all of them fo only one faction? wouldn´t that unbalance the game?

[Stephan]

turkey is not so huge but maybe you are right
i dont think we should have more than 25 factions which one would you remove?

[maxi90]

mmhh.. it is tough to chooce one. are we having Thrakia as a faction? cause i think that would be my choice.

[Stephan]

yes the faction list is on the first page

[maxi90]

thrakia isn´t on the faction list

[dragonsign]

Many good sugestions Stephan, but the map is to messy :p

Try to use an image for each region like syria, palestine etc..

[absinthia]

are you guys aware of the amount of work required for this campaign?
unless you are experienced moders, with keen knowledge of scripting, coding and modeling/textureing, you will have to learn a huge amount of different stuff.
may i suggest that you first make a smaller campaign, concentrated on either the north/western or the middle eastern part. there should be enough cultures in those areas to make a diverse campaign.
when you have a working campaign, somewhat ready for beta testing, you could expand it to the whole map.
you should also look for other mods spanning similar time-frame and/or area and team up.

[dragonsign]

point..

[Stephan]

sure we arnt the expierienced modders but we dont have to release this mod tomorrow so we have time to learn and maybe some more expierienced modders will join later

may i suggest that you first make a smaller campaign, concentrated on either the north/western or the middle eastern part. there should be enough cultures in those areas to make a diverse campaign.

why not the whole map from the beginning the factions that arnt done are just rebells and we also have some clone factions which dont need many extra work

[maxi90]

sure thing, we are rockies, you could say (well, at least i am). but this mod is still in the phase of organization. our team is short but i´m sure more peopple will join us later, maybe someone with experience. so i don´t think it will be a problem.

[dragonsign]

you have to start somewhere

[absinthia]

not my intention to thrash you guys for being noobs or anything like that.
my point being merely that by concentrating on one region and focusing on a few cultures at a time, you are more likely to get this project up and running. what you are aiming at is somewhat of a full conertion of m2tw.
let say you concentrate on the north/western part. you would have carthago, romans(latins?) and the celts to focus on. this would reduce the mapping job by a bunch and also give a good position to expand the map later. when you have that part set up and close to a beta, you would have aquired the skill and expertice to make the rest a piece of cake.
any way, what you need to do is to get the mapping and coding done, both huge jobs.
the chance of experienced modders joining a project that not even got a working mod folder, nor any modelers or scripters are close to nill. this should be obvious by the amount of ideas and maps in the wips section.
but, again, it is not my intention to rain on your parade. the reason i am bothering you with this is that i rather like the time-frame and would like to see this project amount to something.
thumbs up for the initiative and happy moding.

[Atatürk]

not my intention to thrash you guys for being noobs or anything like that.
my point being merely that by concentrating on one region and focusing on a few cultures at a time, you are more likely to get this project up and running. what you are aiming at is somewhat of a full conertion of m2tw.
let say you concentrate on the north/western part. you would have carthago, romans(latins?) and the celts to focus on. this would reduce the mapping job by a bunch and also give a good position to expand the map later. when you have that part set up and close to a beta, you would have aquired the skill and expertice to make the rest a piece of cake.
any way, what you need to do is to get the mapping and coding done, both huge jobs.
the chance of experienced modders joining a project that not even got a working mod folder, nor any modelers or scripters are close to nill. this should be obvious by the amount of ideas and maps in the wips section.
but, again, it is not my intention to rain on your parade. the reason i am bothering you with this is that i rather like the time-frame and would like to see this project amount to something.
thumbs up for the initiative and happy moding.

First we're dealing with finding all the factions and the cities of the map. I know what you mean about concentrating on one zone at a time and whatever but don't worry.

What we're going to do is work on one faction at a time once the real work gets underway.

[helmersen]

Looking great, I love the map guys!

[dragonsign]

@absinthia

I have created a working mod folder

@Helmersen

It will always be pleasure to work with you

[Stephan]

great Helmersen welcome in the team

[helmersen]

Thank you Stephan, and yes, and honor once more, dragonsign

[Stephan]

heres the settlement list
some of these names may be german
dragonsign i hope this one is ok if you zoom in you can read everything

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1 Athen
2 Corinth
3 Sparta
4 Thasos
5 Byzantium
6 Abydos
7 Miletus
8 Sardis
9 Phaselis
10 Celaenae
11 Gordium
12 Ancyra
13 Tieum
14 Sinope
15 Thapezunt
16 Kanish
17 Tarsus
18 Astacus
19 Ephesos
20 Rhodos
21 Knossos
22 Cyrene
23 Siwa
24 Libdah
25 Oea
26 Sabrata
27 Barce
28 Sais
29 Tanis
30 Memphis
31 Thebes
32 Assuan
33 Naukratis
34 Heracleopolis
35 Siut
36 Quseir
37 Petra
38 Jerusalem
39 Gaza
40 Laquis
41 Tyre
42 Arados
43 Sidon
44 Byblos
45 Damaskus
46 Aleppo
47 Dumah
48 Erech
49 Babylon
50 Susa
51 Ur
52 Assur
53 Nineve
54 Haran
55 Nippur
56 Anschan
57 Hormuz
58 Anatho
59 Arbil
60 Der
61 Pasargadai
62 Tadmor
63 Meliddu
64 Malazgirt
65 Haran
66 Phasis
67 Phanagoreia
68 Theodosia
69 Chersonesos
70 Odesso
71 Tyras
72 Argos
73 Kydonia
74 Thebes
75 Olympia
76 Carchemish
77 Ecbatana
78 Pella
79 Epidamnos
80 Tarent
81 Thera
82 Cumae
83 Epiros
84 Russe
85 Odrysai
86 Serdica
87 Arpi
88 Capua
89 Rome
90 Barion
91 Syrakus
92 Croton
93 Genoa
94 Asculum
95 Alalia
96 Patavium
97 Mantua
98 Felsina
99 Olbia
100 Caralis
101 Veii
102 Tarchna
103 Vetluna
104 Arretium
105 Parma
106 Messana
107 Massilia
108 Agathe
109 Emporiae
110 Carpentras
111 Ebusos
112 Hermeroskopeion
113 Zakynthos
114 Acci
115 Antikaria
116 Utica
117 Karthago
118 Thapsos
119 Hippo Regius
120 Capsa
121 Icosium
122 Gadir
123 Rusadir
124 Carmona
125 Cortes de Navarra
126 Finca de Paloma
127 Monte Bego
128 Vienne
129 Mediolanum
130 Salonae
131 St Michel-du-Touch
132 Napata
133 Meroe
134 Adulis
135 Aksum
136 Ikkur
137 Semna
138 Kawa
139 Ghadames
140 In Salah
141 Tindouf
142 Ghat
143 Kufra
144 Augila
145 Aquileia
146 Medina
147 Sana'a
148 Tayma
149 Sirwah
150 Marib
151 Aden
152 Najran
153 Amol
154 Dilmun
155 Muscat
156 Qana
157 Thaj
158 Adulis
159 Berenice
160 El Riah
161 Suhar
162 Rhizon
163 Gulashkird
164 Rhagae
165 Siscia
166 Sirmium
167 Aenoma
168 Schahr-i-Sochte
169 Nischapur
170 Zadrakarta
171 Gabai
172 Moscha
173 Pura
174 Paraitonion
175 Melitia
176 Segesta
177 Rhegium
178 Lixus
179 Mainake
180 Abdera
181 Tingis
182 Kartaia
183 Salamis
184 Citium
185 Lilybaeum
186 Alba Longa

[helmersen]

Why not 199, but 186?

[maxi90]

@helmersen
welcome to the team

@Stephan
nicely done. i don´t think we will need more settlemenst, but if we do, we can always include some.
i have a question though. are you sure Byzantium was already there on our time period?