The Shadow of Ishtar - The Beginning

[Stephan]

maxi90 is a new team member
welcome

[Nirmajek]

finally, i made it!!!!
lol maybe a little late for you

what do you think about that?
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6...talwar2yl7.png

[Stephan]

thx for the map +rep
i like the idea of adding parts of spain for carthago but i like the other map
more and we alreday decided what map we will use
but maybe we will expand the map later...

with all the greek city states we have now 22 factions what do you think of adding 3 to make an even number and which would you suggest?

EDIT: sorry we already have 23 factions so only 2 factions to chose

[maxi90]

teah that map is pretty much what we need. thank you and +rep

btw, why the map in the front page is shorter? with that map we couldn´t include iberia as a faction, an i rigth?

i think this nex map is perfect, thoug maybe we shopuld include some more of Italy for the Etruscan. what do you think?

[Stephan]

with that map we couldn´t include libia as a faction, an i rigth?

no on the front page map we can also include them


AND WE STILL NEED MAPPER CODER SCRIPTER AND MODELLER


EDIT: is it possible to have diagonal map borders?

[dragonsign]

Good luck with this mod project people

And i think dont belive diagonal borders are possible, but never tried it.

Edit: Is this the base for your map?

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6...talwar2yl7.png

[Stephan]

with that map we couldn´t include libia as a faction, an i rigth? no on the front page map we can also include them

im so stupid i thought you said lybia not iberia
no we cant include iberia on the first page map

Edit: Is this the base for your map?

we dont really know what to use
maybe we can start a poll what people think

[dragonsign]

Oki dok, I would gladly help with some mapping but is pinned down with L'Outremer atm.

I will do some research for this mod when i have time

[Icefrisco]

Good idea! I always liked the idea of an ancient world mod.

[Stephan]

I opened a poll tread
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=214632

[maxi90]

im so stupid i thought you said lybia not iberia
no we cant include iberia on the first page map

LOL my bad, i wrote lybia but i didn´t ment it what was i thinking?


good idea with the poll btw

[Nirmajek]

i dont think it's possible to create a non-square map, but you can rotate it and let it look like it is curved, but with squared limits lol

or you can represent the northern territories as very big regions, i don't know...

and yes, you still have 22 factions imagined... i just want to say that I don't think it's so right to create a faction named Jerusalem, and not creating the little Kingdoms around them, like Kingdom of Edom, of Israel, and others i didnt note on my map... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Levant_830.svg
it's only my opinion

[maxi90]

@Nirmajek

yes, in fact i think you are rigth. it would fit better to call that faction Kingdom of Israle than just Jerusalem. thanks for the tip

and +rep for the map

edit: sorry, i cannot give you rep, i´ll give you some tomorrow

[Nirmajek]

oh no be careful, i think it was still the Kingdom of Judah, the name of the Kingdom that owned Jerusalem, as a capital city lol

[Nirmajek]

and btw, what does it means +rep?
i'm not a perfect english speaker

[maxi90]

rep=reputation
you give someone reputation when you think that he maid a good post, or when he contribute with something (like you did). but for some reason, it doesn´t let me give you. well, i´ll give you another time.

btw, Stephan, in that map is cleary specified the location of Tire and some of the cities owned by them. so if we finaly decide to use it as a faction (and i hope so) this map will be quite useful

[Stephan]

doesnt matter which map we use a jewish and a phoenician faction will be in for sure

EDIT: i think i just found the perfect map




now we have 24 factions with the new hispano-celts
i think one more faction would be good to have an even number
here are the options i think are good:

1) an other celtic faction (north west "?")

2) the scythiens (north east "?")

3) an arabian faction (south east "?")

4) the illyrians (middle "?")

what do you think guys? i think 2 or 3 are the best options

[Giorgios]

That map with all the factions on it seems quite good; but remember not to make your workload too large!

[Atatürk]

doesnt matter which map we use a jewish and a phoenician faction will be in for sure

EDIT: i think i just found the perfect map




now we have 24 factions with the new hispano-celts
i think one more faction would be good to have an even number
here are the options i think are good:

1) an other celtic faction (north west "?")

2) the scythiens (north east "?")

3) an arabian faction (south east "?")

4) the illyrians (middle "?")

what do you think guys? i think 2 or 3 are the best options

Yep that seems like a good cutting of the map.

I'm not sure about the Celtics and the Illyrians but I can comment on the Arabs and the Scythians.

The Scythians first emerged in the 9th century BC, but they were very tiny. They were a fully fledged faction by the 7th century BC.

As for the Arabs in the south east, they were Bedouin tribesman of Pagan religion as stated in the Qur'an. There were different tribes of different powers, but I'm not sure if it will be possible to find the dominant tribe.

[maxi90]

The Arabs seems to be the best choice, but as kemalraik said, it won´t be easy to identify the dominant tribe.
on the other hand, Illirians would be my second choice, as they would be the easiest faction to research.