Which is better punishment?

[rusina]

What do you think, which is better punishment: life in prison or death penalty.

I think life in prison, because your gonna suffer for rest of your life.

[Strattios]

I don't want to have him costing me money. Hmmm, I'd go for gladiator fights actually. The winners then become and elite commando squad sent to do suicide missions with little 10lb explosive devices strapped to them. If they end up surviving ten years of that, then they get sent to any country in Europe they want to with a new pasport and ID as well as some start up money. Their ID say they left the country because they couldn't stand the Republican party. That will help them get some nice jobs over there.

[Heinz Guderian]

What kind of prison are we talking here. ADX Florence or something like the Federal Correctional Institute Miami?

[pchalk]

I don't want to have him costing me money. Hmmm, I'd go for gladiator fights actually. The winners then become and elite commando squad sent to do suicide missions with little 10lb explosive devices strapped to them. If they end up surviving ten years of that, then they get sent to any country in Europe they want to with a new pasport and ID as well as some start up money. Their ID say they left the country because they couldn't stand the Republican party. That will help them get some nice jobs over there.

HAHA its almost scary how close this is to what I always say about this issue. +1 rep to u definately

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

What do you think, which is better punishment: life in prison or death penalty.

I think life in prison, because your gonna suffer for rest of your life.

Life imprisonment is incomparably 'better' in terms of human rights. Only those countries didn't abolish capital punishment, that don't respect the basic human right to live: China, USA, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, etc.

[Dr. Croccer]

Life imporisonment is a far more effective method. They'll suffer alright.

[Captain Jin]

It really depends on the prison I suppose.

[squigian]

And a life sentence is a reversible decision if you get it wrong.

[Phileas Fogg]

Life in prison, while having very bad conditions in prison, is much worse then death penalty. It is being tortured to death, which is an excellent punishment against most horrific criminals. I do believe, though, that criminals who are suppose to be released from prison, should be taken care of in order not the make them full of grudge and hate - that can potentioly hurt the people they will meet outside.

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

It is being tortured to death, which is an excellent punishment against most horrific criminals.

Why is it 'excellent' to kill someone?

[Strattios]

There is no such things as "Human Rights" other than what a group of people decides on. It's not like there is some giant list somewhere that has been there since the begging of time that say "The following shall be rights granted to every human being".

Since it is based on peoples word (usually a government) we in the US have never listed "life no matter what" as one of our rights, in fact we have it clear that you can even lose some of your access to rights based on your actions or actions that you have been convicted of.

[Phileas Fogg]

Why is it 'excellent' to kill someone?

I didn't express any support of killing someone.

[Ishoss]

Life in a non-western prison.
For eastern-europeans doing robberies in Norway it's a win-win situation, if they get caught, they get thrown in a prison which is better than their home, if they get away with it they become rich.

Sad.

[Lucifer Sam]

What do you think, which is better punishment: life in prison or death penalty.

I think life in prison, because your gonna suffer for rest of your life.

as a punishment to the induvidual

agree fully however

1. death penalty is cheaper
2. safer to public
3. is a better detterent


also depends on living standards in the prison.

[Visna]

as a punishment to the induvidual

agree fully however

1. death penalty is cheaper

Actually, when counting the costs of appeals etc, the death penalty tends to be overall more expensive than life imprisonment. Not that I fully understand why you would want to kill someone based on a cost/benefit analysis of keeping them alive. I just hope for your sake that people don't decide to kill you when you reach a more ripe age, because it's expensive to keep you alive
But to each his own, I guess.

2. safer to public

Apart from the convicted escaping prison, something that doesn't exactly happen on a daily basis, how is it safer?

3. is a better detterent

Would this be a good time to ask for some statistics, some kind of reputable study, anything at all actually, on that one? I think it would. Sources please.

[Lucifer Sam]

Actually, when counting the costs of appeals etc, the death penalty tends to be overall more expensive than life imprisonment. Not that I fully understand why you would want to kill someone based on a cost/benefit analysis of keeping them alive. I just hope for your sake that people don't decide to kill you when you reach a more ripe age, because it's expensive to keep you alive
But to each his own, I guess.

it can only be effective if there is a limit of 1/2 appeals, and the prisonor isnt kept on ddeath row for decades.

Apart from the convicted escaping prison, something that doesn't exactly happen on a daily basis, how is it safer?

yeah mainly him escaping, or being let out by a revouloutionary government/bandits (not likely in most parts of the world but some). and what about war criminals etc?

Would this be a good time to ask for some statistics, some kind of reputable study, anything at all actually, on that one? I think it would. Sources please.

no two countries are the same, but i will admit that countries which have death penalty have higher crime rate
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/dete...r-murder-rates

but whether this is because of death penalty its higher, or whether because its higher, they have a death penalty i really dont know.

[razor-]

I in general prefer life in prison because its somewhat reversable, but there is a few exceptions I would like to see executed. Can't see the reason why we should keep people alive who have proudly admitted to commiting multiple homicides and are now receiving fan-mail from stupid teenagers while living in a hotel-like prison for the tax payed money that could have gone to better public schools. Anyway I heard somewhere that executions are more expensive than life imprisonment, can anyone confirm this?

[Barry Goldwater]

I support the death penalty, for 3 simple reasons:

1. It kills any chance of a repeat offense.
2. It's an effective deterrent to future criminals - you won't be so hasty to murder someone when you've seen what happened to the last murderer...
3. It's cheaper without all the appeals.

Anyway I heard somewhere that executions are more expensive than life imprisonment, can anyone confirm this?

Executions are expensive because of the appeal process, I believe, as well as because of the methods used today...why bother using lethal injections when you could just hang the criminal?

[Celsius]

depends on what the person has done. Say if they want to die, just keep in prison so they suffer. Or if they want to live, death.

[boofhead]

It depends on the individual and the prison involved regarding life sentences. If the person is someone who easily dominates others and thrives off violence or intimidation, and successfully, then a life sentence is not really a problem for him. He's king of his own domain. People like that should just be put to death. However if you have some cowardly wimp like the Ukrainian thrill-killers, who only function as part of a group, then being seperated from their co-offenders and jailed for life may be a decent option. They'd be miserable as hell.

I spent some time in prison in my younger days, and it wasn't so bad. I mean it sucked, but I'm sure given enough time you'd get used to it. There were lifers where I was - and they were perfectly content. One guy had killed 3 women and a kid. He was highly charismatic, and there was a great fear-factor surrounding him felt by the other inmates....whether or not he was so tough is anyone's guess, because he was never tested. He used to drink home-brew in front of the screws on muster, was the only guy who didn't have to wear a green tracksuit, had access to the wings when everyone else was locked out and could steal their stuff, controlled all the soap, toothpaste, coffee, clean towels etc......he had all that power because the screws knew that they had to keep on his good side to keep order in the place.

So was life imprisonment a fair punishment for that guy? A rapist, serial killer and child murderer? I think not.

He had spent 32 years imprisoned when I got there - those are 32 years he didn't deserve, considering his initial crime was to attack a mother and her 8 year old son at an isolated picnic ground. He tied the kid to a tree and raped the mother, then killed the mother in front of the kid, and then killed the poor boy. After serving about 20 years he was released, and on the way home from the jail he murdered his girlfriend and her daughter in the car..................the silly woman had started a prison romance with him.

So I mean, , that guy should have been executed after the first murders. And now he's living like a relative king, master of hundreds of people who are scared crapless by him.