Why did God send Jesus to us around 2,000 years ago?

[Rich86]

As the title says; why around 2,000 years ago? Why not say, 2,500 years ago? 3,000 years ago? 1,000 years ago?

What was so special about that time that God decided to send Jesus to us then? If Jesus was sent to 'save us from our sins' what about the people who lived and died before Jesus?

[Bond]

[The Dude]

Obviously the people who lived and died before Jesus were sinless. Jesus was sent as a direct response to Julius Caesar and his butchering of Asterix and Obelix.

... right?

[Juicemisbruk]

Obviously the people who lived and died before Jesus were sinless. Jesus was sent as a direct response to Julius Caesar and his butchering of Asterix and Obelix.

... right?

im confused

[MaximiIian]

The obvious answer is that he was just a man, whose ideology was a product of his time. In that era, foreign invaders (the Romans) were oppressing the native and local peoples to the point of persecution and tyranny, thus causing revolutionaries claiming messianic importance to prop up, like, every other Thursday.

Really, the best analogy would be interwar Germany; the country/region was under terrible duress and the people were impoverished and felt oppressed by foreign occupiers and perceived (key word there) traitors. So, they looked to persons they did not quite understand, who claimed to be god-sent saviours of the nation. So, people flocked to such persons without considering consequences, which in Germany's case was the Second World War and all it entailed, and for Roman Judaea was the inception of an entirely new religion and social phenomenon.
Granted, Jesus' ideology was more optimistic than that of the NSDAP, and Roman Judea had more messiah claimants. But the basic analogy is solid.

[Musthavename]

God had decided on using the Cross as a Symbol of Christiniaty beforehand...

So he had to go there to have any chance of being... well... put on a cross?

[The Dude]

Couldn't god just create a guy on a cross like *poof*, and there he is?

[Musthavename]

Couldn't god just create a guy on a cross like *poof*, and there he is?

Yeah, but where's the fun in that? Having a bloke on a cross walk across water for instance would just... not look right.

[Strattios]

Jesus and people trying to start new religions have been around for ever. It just happens that the one that Jesus was teaching managed to become a huge success.

[The Dude]

Jesus and people trying to start new religions have been around for ever. It just happens that the one that Jesus was teaching managed to become a huge success.

Exactly. Who knows, Maybe L. Ron Hubbard is considered the messiah 2000 years from now.

[hellheaven1987]

Jesus and people trying to start new religions have been around for ever. It just happens that the one that Jesus was teaching managed to become a huge success.

Wait, so that means I can condemn Jesus is heretic??

[basics]

Rich86,

The timing from creation to Noah and so on until Jesus is one of mathematical planning found in Scripture. This is counted in generations the number of which escapes me for the moment but 14 and/or 42 come to mind. These have a significance especially to the Hebrews although not necessarily observed today. By that I mean that the so-called churches don't give them much thought.

Now as far as Jesus is concerned if one looks at things from God's side according to Scripture we are here for God's pleasure. That pleasure is that He reveals Himself to men as Saviour out of a fallen species. To make a Saviour of need God saw to it that by the fall of man opposition to Him was complete. In other words the only way His human creatures could ever know Him was by the faith of the One He would send.

Indeed it is written that before the worlds were made this was ordained in the heavens and them to be saved, well their names were chosen by grace and entered in a book opened only at the judgement. So although there is an elect, saved by the faith of Jesus Christ, none of us really know for certain who they are although by their fruits we can make serious guesses. That is that the Spirit within all is of one voice and one Lord.

Regarding them that are accounted saints before the Saviour step foot on the planet, they are saved by exactly the same means that all since are. By faith, the faith of Jesus Christ revealed to them, according to the promise of God delivered in the garden at the fall about Him who could and would return them to their God, is what they believed and that was accounted as being righteous before God and could only be had they been regenerate to believe.

Since only God can justify salvation comes therefore from God. Indeed since blood was demanded as punishment for the fall into sin, elaborated eventually by the Law of Moses, only a Saviour who is God had the power to make the Law motionless concerning those saints or any saints. By that I mean that the Law could no longer find anything to condemn them for since the Saviour had paid what they were due on their behalf as substitute.

So the cross or should I say the broken body on the cross being a substitute, once only, covered all them from the beginning of the world until it's end thus defining who is saved and who is not. What transpired before and what transpires after happens when God reveals Jesus Christ after His own righteousness making the recipient aware of his or her shortcomings before God. In other words their blindness is removed and conviction sets in.

Then and only then does God convert for it is those moments that the recipient is fully aware of how unGodly he or she has been. Their old nature is replaced in a fraction of time by the new nature and no more do they belong to the serpent nor are they sinners any more. They belong to Jesus Christ and Him only. That is what is meant by being " born again."

You see it is all of God from beginning to end and for His good pleasure He sees it all through despite His story being hi-jacked by organisations claiming to be His successors in the name of religion. Jesus Christ is alive and well, is also building His church as I write so why on earth would He need any successors?

The time we live in now is called the times of the Gentiles or the figurative thousand year reign spoken of in Revelation. It is not literally one thousand years but a Biblical compilation of three tens multiplied by themselves, 10x10x10 making one thousand. Ten is the number of completeness and what could be more complete than Father, Son and Holy Ghost that bring men to renewal.

But then another figure appears from the beginning only really referred to in Revelation as 666. Since God made men in 6 days resting on the 7th it follows in my opinion, that 6 is man's number, 7 being where by the grace of God men should want to be since it is the Biblical number of perfection. 666 to me is no more than man under Satan, Satan's power and the false prophet. Everything that cannot and does not want to attain the 7, at least not under God or His Saviour.

[Holger Danske]

Ehm he didn't...
Some random guy was randomly born in a random time and place, and randomly was named Jesus. He by chance had some amazing charisma and just wanted to 'change' the world for something better and some other random people of power saw his randomly given charisma as a random tool of more power (those who by random became the church)...

Here's another thing: You seriously don't believe his mother didn't screw to get pregnant?
Of cause she did!

Sorry to say this, but this entire story is just as random as a episode of Family Guy!

[Ragabash]

Sorry to say this, but this entire story is just as random as a episode of Family Guy!

Planet Earth 2: The story that continues even in the afterlife.

[boofhead]

I would have answered this thread if I thought you sought knowledge, but I rather expected that you were just throwing out a carrot so that you could spew your anti-Christian, atheistic smarty-pantness onto the forums. And it seems I was correct.

If you actually interested in knowing the answer to this question, you could quite easily google it, or read a Bible, or go to a church and ask a pastor or minister.

[Morlam]

"...we've been here maybe 100.000 years (...). For 98.000 of those years you have to believe, if you're a christian, that Heaven watched with folded arms. Most people died of climatic crisis*, or just watched their children die as soon as they were born. Saw them perhaps struggle for a few years, life expectancy maybe 25. People dying of their teeth, of revolting deficiency diseases, misery, struggle, famine... Turf wars over women, turf wars over territory...Terror at any supernatural seeming event, an earthquake, a comet...Everything a nightmare, a mystery. No germ theory of disease, fear, trembling...But slowly, gradually struggling onward to become homo sapiens. For 98.000 years heaven watches that not caring, and then says 2000 years ago : it's time to intervene. Why don't we give God a son, and murder him cruelly an illiterate part of the Middle East. That ought to solve it. Thats what you have to believe, to be a christian. Well, I invite you to believe it. But I can't envy you. The sheer streniousness, the unbelievable contempt for evidence, the fantastic indifference to everything that humanity has actually succeeded in finding out, about itself and it's cosmos and it's species, that you need to keep this little cult alive..."

*population bottleneck - down to 2-5000 humans probably beacause of climate changes due to massive vulcanic eruption in Indonesia.

Christopher Hitchens rounding off a debate with Doug Wilson. Watch the entire clip here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygrH6...eature=related

ps - can someone tell me how to attach a you-tube clip directly?

[sephodwyrm]

What was so special about that time that God decided to send Jesus to us then?

You should ask why didn't God send Jesus China where we can call him Da Bao?
And we wouldn't burn him at the cross. In fact, we would start a rebellion with him as our leader, give him 70 wives and call him Emperor (if he succeeded) or a lunatic (if he failed).

[hellheaven1987]

You should ask why didn't God send Jesus China where we can call him Da Bao?
And we wouldn't burn him at the cross. In fact, we would start a rebellion with him as our leader, give him 70 wives and call him Emperor (if he succeeded) or a lunatic (if he failed).

I can answer this.

The reason is God only knows there is such land called Far East until 16th Century, but he/she/it was busy to deal series family issues, mainly his/her/its children conflict such as Protestant vs Catholic, Muslim vs Orthodox and so on. Another reason was he/she/it was busying to convert pagans in New World and Southeast Asia so he/she/it had no time to care things in Far East (although he/she/it did try to convert Japanese, but apartly Shogun caught God by surprise and deal all the believer when he was busying dealing those dummie participated in Thiry Years War).

Then, around mid 19th Century finally God had time to deal Far East after most his/her/its believers/children decided not to commit genocide on eachother, so secretly God instructed a Chinese and asked him to rebel against the government, which started the Taiping Rebellion; well, God hoped his/her/its children in Shainghai would help the rebels but apartly God's messanger was broken and could not bring the message before the rebels were crushed.

So, God, despite the first attemp failed, decided to put this mission on American and sent waves after waves missionaries into China; funny enough, in the end the Heretic (Commie) crushed God's plan without any serious problems at all.

That is the brief history about God's activity in China.

[Aetius]

I can answer this.

The reason is God only knows there is such land called Far East until 16th Century, but he/she/it was busy to deal series family issues, mainly his/her/its children conflict such as Protestant vs Catholic, Muslim vs Orthodox and so on. Another reason was he/she/it was busying to convert pagans in New World and Southeast Asia so he/she/it had no time to care things in Far East (although he/she/it did try to convert Japanese, but apartly Shogun caught God by surprise and deal all the believer when he was busying dealing those dummie participated in Thiry Years War).

Then, around mid 19th Century finally God had time to deal Far East after most his/her/its believers/children decided not to commit genocide on eachother, so secretly God instructed a Chinese and asked him to rebel against the government, which started the Taiping Rebellion; well, God hoped his/her/its children in Shainghai would help the rebels but apartly God's messanger was broken and could not bring the message before the rebels were crushed.

So, God, despite the first attemp failed, decided to put this mission on American and sent waves after waves missionaries into China; funny enough, in the end the Heretic (Commie) crushed God's plan without any serious problems at all.

That is the brief history about God's activity in China.

LOL WUT?

[hellheaven1987]

LOL WUT?

Brief History of Christian God's activity in China.

A semi-trolling but a lot are basing on facts.