hordes

[kopite493]

is the horde feature implemented in xgm if it is what factions can use it

[gaius_caesar]

the barbarian factions and parthia....

[kopite493]

really noobish this but other than gaul who are the barbarian factions

[gaius_caesar]

really noobish this but other than gaul who are the barbarian factions

if you mean barbarians that can horde then germania, iberia, independent gauls but not sure if scythia is part of it. i'll check later...

[kopite493]

thanks man

[Webba]

Scythia and Parthia also.

[aznflea]

LOL?!?!?!? PARTHIA CAN FROM HORDES??!?!?!?!

[CaesarVincens]

Sure. Until later, they were half-nomadic for the most part.

[Scutarii]

I don't think Iberia can... But both Gauls, Germania, Scythia, and Parthia (?) can all form hordes.

[gaius_caesar]

oh yeah, Iberia can't horde, i forgot. And though it may seem weird, Parthia is the best faction to horde because you will suddenly have an army of horse archers, which are really effective in the war against TSE

[aznflea]

the parthian horde is on of the most threatening beast ive ever piloted. cataphracts and horsearchers galore in enourmous numbers.

[Barend]

Hordes aren't that dangerous. Find a choking point (bridge, pass) and station an advanced, well equiped army at that point. If all goes well then the enemy will try in vain to get past that point and you can easily destroy them.

That was at least the case in BI, where I destroyed 4 slavic stacks in one turn.

[gaius_caesar]

Hordes aren't that dangerous. Find a choking point (bridge, pass) and station an advanced, well equiped army at that point. If all goes well then the enemy will try in vain to get past that point and you can easily destroy them.

That was at least the case in BI, where I destroyed 4 slavic stacks in one turn.

yes thats true but the problem is that some units has the can_swim attribute especially the HA's and once they flank your troops on the bridge... well its over...

[htismaqe]

Doesn't swimming only come into play with the Alexander EXE?

[CaesarVincens]

No, BI too.

[Webba]

Actually IIRC Alex.exe doesn't have swimming. And that is a good good thing because swimming makes bridge battles way too easy. Who honestly thinks swimming horse archers are a danger? They'll exhaust themselves swimming across (if you use fatigue) and even if you don't some militia spearmen waiting on the other side will kill them all as they leave the river. Then they route back into the river and die trying to swim back. AI does better in bridge battles without swimming. BI has some good features but swimming isn't one of them.

[gaius_caesar]

Actually IIRC Alex.exe doesn't have swimming. And that is a good good thing because swimming makes bridge battles way too easy. Who honestly thinks swimming horse archers are a danger? They'll exhaust themselves swimming across (if you use fatigue) and even if you don't some militia spearmen waiting on the other side will kill them all as they leave the river. Then they route back into the river and die trying to swim back. AI does better in bridge battles without swimming. BI has some good features but swimming isn't one of them.

well i have had bad experiences with swimming HAs especially if it is a horde army I am battling with...

[Unknown Soldier]

As I've said previous should be called drowning not swimming.

[Barend]

If you have problems fighting swimming HA in bridge battles I suggest elephants. They can swim ( I know, it's crazy ), they are impossible to kill in the water and they will destroy everthing in their path.

[Zarax]

If you have problems fighting swimming HA in bridge battles I suggest elephants. They can swim ( I know, it's crazy ), they are impossible to kill in the water and they will destroy everthing in their path.

Elephants can swim, at least when they aren't loaded with towers or armour on top...