The Pope pwns

[whitesoxfan]

Alright, how come the pope never loses a war, except to the human player.

I've seen some pretty suprising things, like england and the HRE finishing off Denmark early, or Spain dying in 10 turns, but the pope never loses! If manages to get his hands on 2-3 settlements, he's unstoppable!

I just saw him wipe out Sicily, who attacked him, and he captured Florence, cagliari, and genoa from Milan. He now has Florence, genoa, rome, naples, palermo, cagliari, and ajjacio. The only thing that's holding him back is me! (venice)

[Mikiez]

The pope usually has a full stack and id assume the pope inspires great moral.

[kannwar]

In my Scottish campaign i had been excommunicated more times than i care to mention over its course. I basically made a complete enemy of the church. In the end, the Papal States declared war on me so i sent several armies (i was quite large by this stage having conquered all of Spain, North Africa and most of Western Europe not to mention England and Denmark) and blasted them from the face of Italy.

The Pope was pretty sore at losing Rome so he called a crusade. Sadly, i had annihilated most of the other catholic factions so only Poland and the Papal States sent armies and they got kicked so hard up the ass that the pope died choking on his own excrement. Amazingly, one of my cardinals became the next pope! Next thing i knew the Papal States declared peace, my faction is reconciled and Poland is blown upon by the full might of the Scottish Empire and the Papacy combined.

That was a fun campaign

[Yojimbo]

In my Scottish campaign i had been excommunicated more times than i care to mention over its course. I basically made a complete enemy of the church. In the end, the Papal States declared war on me so i sent several armies (i was quite large by this stage having conquered all of Spain, North Africa and most of Western Europe not to mention England and Denmark) and blasted them from the face of Italy.

The Pope was pretty sore at losing Rome so he called a crusade. Sadly, i had annihilated most of the other catholic factions so only Poland and the Papal States sent armies and they got kicked so hard up the ass that the pope died choking on his own excrement. Amazingly, one of my cardinals became the next pope! Next thing i knew the Papal States declared peace, my faction is reconciled and Poland is blown upon by the full might of the Scottish Empire and the Papacy combined.

That was a fun campaign

Hilarious!

Ive never let the pope get out of hand, as ive never seen it happen. He's only declared war on me once as Spain.

This was the result when i was crusaded against...


...and there was another five or so stacks outside that one city. I had to quit the campaign.

[Mythlacar]

I Recently played a game as Russians, made a nice defensive wall along the polish border and expanded into the middle east for some fun.

When it came time to go into western Europe (I had all of Iberia, North Africa, the Middle East, and everything east of Constantinople) I went into Europe to find out the guy who destroyed Milan, Venice, Sicily, HRE, and France was.... THE POPE!

He had the entirety of Western Europe! The only survivors were Scotland England and the Danes! (I killed the polish, Byzantines killed the Hungarians, I in turn killed them, I took out the islamic factions spain and portugal.)

I finished off the danes, England and Scotland by a nice invasion, isolating the pope in western Europe, Orthodox Christianity vs the pope ftw!

[whitesoxfan]

The pope has just invaded Iberia, he is fighting Spain and Portugal and winning.

[Double A]

I Recently played a game as Russians, made a nice defensive wall along the polish border and expanded into the middle east for some fun.

When it came time to go into western Europe (I had all of Iberia, North Africa, the Middle East, and everything east of Constantinople) I went into Europe to find out the guy who destroyed Milan, Venice, Sicily, HRE, and France was.... THE POPE!

He had the entirety of Western Europe! The only survivors were Scotland England and the Danes! (I killed the polish, Byzantines killed the Hungarians, I in turn killed them, I took out the islamic factions spain and portugal.)

I finished off the danes, England and Scotland by a nice invasion, isolating the pope in western Europe, Orthodox Christianity vs the pope ftw!

I'm assuming you did a sweep south, went through the Holy Lands, hit Tunis, attacked the Moors, then killed them and the rest of Iberia?

Take Rome or Sicily so you have a centralized capital.

[platinumkiller]

yea! pope owns! its also always fun to be him.

[kannwar]

Don't you have to mod something to play as the Papal States?

[Mikiez]

Don't you have to mod something to play as the Papal States?

Yeh, I know Clouds across Europe lets you play as the papal states im not sure about others but I know there are more.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

If you want to play the Papal states just add them to the playable factions in the descr_strat (cut and paste). It is very easy to play the pope.

I have seen the pope wiped out by Sicily or Milan in several of my games. In my last English campaign I had to recapture Rome several times for him. He like me and hated Milan, but that is normal: every one hates Milan

[S-te-Fan]

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[Lucifer Sam]

excommunication

crusades

the resulting stacks of armies

[robbo]

I've really let him get out of hand in my campaign. He's got around 30 regions or so and will soon be bordering my territories. It's bad enough when you have to declare war on the Worlds strongest military power, never mind when it means excommunicating yourself pretty much permanently, being hated by every catholic faction and facing loads of crusades. Still, when I put it like that I suppose it could be fun.

The fact is I've never seen any other campaign where the pope has become such a huge power and has full stacks all over non-catholic lands. It's not so bad when he's surrounded by catholics as he's more reluctant to go to war with them and vice versa. However now he's amongst the Turks and Byzantines there's going to be no stopping him.

[Feldman]

ive seen the pope take over italy, north africa, and greece. they always seem to war with the moors and byzantines in my campaigns and they always crush them. they also seem to ally with egypt alot for some reason

[France]

Tip 1: Always take away Rome from the Pope before he makes like your mom and expands.

[Double A]

Too bad there is no Russian Holy war. Your wallet would love that!