Migration+Isolationism

[Exarch]

right off the bat, which faction and where do u prefer to migrate to for what i assume would be the best starting position that's got few enemies, good resources and where u can hold court in your own little private isolationist kingdom hmmmm?

for eg, i love the HRE faction and its unit roster but i hate its starting position to pieces, so i'll usually pack up shop, destroy every builing for the $$$ and migrate to (counterintuitively) northern italy where the alps make a nice buffer against any northern agressors and given how much the pope hates the HRE u can take him out and just have the rest of the peninsula as your own isolationist kingdom...unfortuantely because it's like the junction and heart of the map, you'll get heaps of clutter form enemy merchants and diplomats and spies etc.

any other tips on a good place to migrate to for an isolationist kingdom?

[HordeOfDoom]

any other tips on a good place to migrate to for an isolationist kingdom?

England; rich trade possibilities and completely isolated from the mainland and all those pesky other factions.

[Dunecat]

Rhodes- You can literally make it impossible for an AI sea landing.

(Technically you could with any region, but Rhodes is the right size.)

Honestly though, I like to migrate where I play least, whatever that happens to be at the time. It could be Greece, Anatolia, the Steppes, Poland, Bohmia, Swabia, WTVR.

[Lord Feloric's Ambassador]

My Lord was considering migrating the Byzantines to England. It would provide some interesting situations. Actually migrating just about any faction to England wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Exarch]

My Lord was considering migrating the Byzantines to England. It would provide some interesting situations. Actually migrating just about any faction to England wouldn't be a bad idea.

aye but unless ur the french ur crossing some incredibly large tracts of land just to get there adn tech up and then u have the pesky alreayd entrenched english to consider
interestingly, the english royal family are all homosexual

[robbo]

I always like to move to Iberia. It's easy to protect from the South and to the North so the only occasional threat is the Scots or English arriving by sea to the North. You're well positioned for trade and can easily send a handful of merchants down to timbuktu for a bit of extra cash. Crusades are also easy to get to by the sea as are the Americas when that event comes about.

The best thing is, you can move most factions in the game there. Currently I've done so with Venice, Scotland and The Knights Templar in SS 4.1. The usual plan is to take all of Iberia, settle down for a while and then take the British Isles. Once I have those two, I find everything is well developed, I can make my strongest possible armies and make my way either clockwise or anti-clockwise around the map, sometimes both at the same time.

[StalkAndStrike]

Sicily perhaps? since you are completley to the south of the pope, usually the only pests are the venitians, also you are amply set for naval-trades and easily defensible island of sicily itself

[Exarch]

aye but sicily's just one island and u need a coupla settlemetns to lord over and provide $$$
spain's good for its compactness and location. tho i'd like to tihnk of scandinaiva and the british isles for that.
has any1 tried going isolationist with france or the HRE

[StalkAndStrike]

oh yes I attempted it with HRE, and I have no comments other than it DEOSEN'T work lol, but I have successfully annexed the british isle with turks and turned it into islamic provinces lol, although they but up a good 'old chirstian struggle

[platinumkiller]

i would say England or just take Italy and make a base of operations there.

[Mikiez]

I would say oslo and the territory next to it because you can block all land access with 1 naval unit and it is centeraly located for good expansion later.(You gotta pull it off with the Egyptians tho )

[Owain Glyndŵr]

The Americas... surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. As long as you've got a strong navy, there's no WAY anyone can reach you... just look at Dunecat's AAR.

[Exarch]

The Americas... surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. As long as you've got a strong navy, there's no WAY anyone can reach you... just look at Dunecat's AAR.

the americas would be ideal if one could reach it via cogs and holks in the early game, plus it has rich mines and trade.
unfortunately one cant reach the americas until the mid to late game