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    Ok. Admit it. Let it out of the closet of your mind. All of you have heard one time or another that no matter what you do or try to, there will always be one evil joo at the end going to grab all your belongings and run leaving you with a good for nothing job, just enough for you to survive.

    There are all those sort of rumours flying around, that somehow all those evils committed time and again against the joos are either false or justified as they were the ones to kill Jesus, weren't they?

    Well, no. Anti-Semitism is and has been the ultimate "Get Rich Quick" scheme of all times. It is so damned easy. Think about it. Blame the joos for Jesus dieing on the Cross (not the Romans). Blame them for the Zionist protocols(not the Czarist police which fabricated them), blame them for 9/11 (not the Taliban) and maybe even for the Sun rising. This way you get to loot their belongings and hey, that wasn't so hard was it? Congratulations. Adolph Hitler would be proud of you. You are one of his now.

    Hebrews have been submitted systematically to any kind of torture, abuse and disrespect available since they were driven out of their land after Vespasianus sacked Jerusalem. This goes beyond wrong, beyond false, beyond disgusting. Jesus Christ was born a Hebrew and died as one . Face the facts. When disrespecting the Semites, the Ioudaioi, the Hebraioi, Hebrews, or Jews, you disrespect the people of Jesus.

    In Spain they were kicked out of their lands after the Christian army got Grenada. In the rest of the Christian Europe, from England to Germany they were stripped out of their belongings at a Monarch's whim. In Germany especially, in every outburst of a Pandemic, be it Cholera or what have you the first thing "god fearing folk" would do is kill as many Hebrews as they could (and incidentally loot their money as well). When Austria occupied present day Yugoslavia and part of Romania in 1617-1630's Hebrews were expelled from all those lands.

    If you take all of the above into account, then Adolph Hitler's rise to power and his promise to "rid the world" of Hebrews does come as a culmination of all this hatred. Hebrews went into the money lending business and were victimised for it (Think Sailok) because they were left with few other means to support themselves. A people without a country to call their own for centuries, driven from land to land most of the times with just the clothes they wore bearing the blame for something that happened more than 1000 years before. Please, ask yourselves a question. Would Jesus ever condemn any one person to suffer as much as His people suffered? Especially when he pardoned the man in the cross next to his? I think He would definitely, especially if people realise that "LOVE" is in the centre of all He said and we know of Him through His Apostles.

    Once you consider the above, put yourselves in the place of a terrified boy from Ioannina, Greece, abducted from his home along with his family and transported to a foreign land. Stripped of all his clothes, he is waiting to be "washed". Gas starts pouring from the showers instead of water. He gasps for air. As he lies dieing, his last thought must be "Why this God? Why me? What could I have done wrong?" Can you guess the religion of that boy? Because his Nationality would be Greek, much as a Greek Orthodox like myself would. Greek Hebrews fought gallantly for Greece when it came under attack from the Axis. They paid a terrible price.
    The few Hebrews from Ioannina who survived returned broken and limping to their homes only to find them occupied by strangers who threatened to kill them if they would try to reclaim their own property. Our shame for that. My own and my city’s.

    Thousands of Hebrews fleeing Germany in WW2 to save their lives were systematically denied admittance in every country they tried to seek asylum in. Nazi troops systematically destroyed everything Hebrews had in any land they grabbed.
    This could go on for pages on similar accounts of savagery, butchery and any form of suffering imaginable. It all happened. It is all real.

    Armenians were targeted for Elimination. Greeks too. Millions of lives were wasted over nothing. No one is saying this is right. My maternal grandfather's family was one of those who were slain. I am not saying this is right or that it will ever be. I just think that the Hebrew genocide was far worse, without any excuse whatsoever, hence the correct title for it, Holocaust. The Hebrews who were slain were German, French, Dutch, Greek, Russian, of every possible nation, but with one thing in common. Being Hebrew.

    It is this, the complete and utter destruction of anything Hebrews built in Europe for Centuries, including Hebrews themselves is beyond comprehension. To treat a people as not much more than cattle, to try to destroy them utterly using advanced scientific methods is just so completely evil that it shouldn't be of this world but for another one, an evil one. Especially as those people did nothing but a perceived harm as in "...they caused us to lose WW1."
    Billions upon billions of loot plundered from those Hebrews? Nah, that's the fine print.

    Many people tried to stem the tide. Germans, Russians, Swedes, Dutch, people of all walks of life risked their lives to help hide as many Hebrews as possible. I am especially proud that my maternal grandfather was one of them. They are the better part of us. The mere fact that they even had to do it in the first place, however, shows perfectly why it should never, ever, happen again.

    Antisemitism is plain wrong. It is one of the things that keeps people apart and it shouldn't. It is a lever of control which points hatred and angst of dailly life to a people who has been the target of it for millenia. It is a Hitler waiting to re-emerge, it is a sinkhole of intolerance, hatred and bigotry. A magnet for evil. It bloomed once and we got the Holocaust. It must never be allowed to do so again. Anything people can do towards that direction is good, for one simple reason: Nobody should have to relive the opposite.

    It was in the news some months earlier that an Austrian bus driver was fired for performing a Nazi salute on the public and obviously aware of the fate that awaited him tried to call this a joke. This isn't to be unexpected. Remarks which pondered why would this be a problem, are. Austria, which has a very high percentage of Nazi sympathizers, is not a place for this to be happening. Had this been allowed, then this person would serve as an evil magnet and would deffinitely point to the nearest "Nazi'R'Us" or "Nazi Underground" recruting station. The obvious retort to anyone protesting that Nazi drivers' sacking is the following. "What would have happened if that Bus driver cursed Hitler during Nazi occupation?" Would anyone see the likes of him ever again? Well, at least now the former Bus driver has his life. Maybe next time he uses his head too.

    Then there is of course the "Soft Nazi" movement. Not that there is anything soft about anything Nazi. This springs up mostly in countries who fought alongside Hitler and/or have Waffen SS veterans living in them. Some have even called them Heroes. The men may have been distinguished themselves individually but the cause they fought for is the most evil there is.

    Not to mention the glorification of anything Nazi that ensues. Things like "Hitler would have made a better world ..." but then of course the punch line hits and it hits hard "... If those American jews hadn't gotten him first". Fact is, of course, that the forces that defeated Hitler and his 1000 year Reich were not Hebrew but an Alliance forged to bring down the ugliest form of Evil known to Man. Hopefully for ever. It is up to us to guard the sacrifices of tens of millions who stood up to the beast and paid the ultimate price for that. Their sacrifices must not go in vain.

    A distinction has to be made here. We can talk about Germany and Third Reich, just make sure that it isn't painted in any glorious light, but that of the gas chambers. I am a wargamer. I have commanded the 3rd Reich in wargames. That does not make me a Nazi, nor does it anyone else. However, it must be explained time and again, especially to the younger ones among us that what exactly the Nazis where and what they did to the whole world, not just Hebrews. Once young people get around that fact, the possibility that they become Nazi themselves decreases dramatically.

    There are a ton of things to do, there deffinitely is. For one a big percentage of people, muslims mostly think poorly of Hebrews. They claim that they do the same to Palestinians that was done to them in the concentration camps. Not a chance. Nothing before or since can compare to that horror. The worse Palestinian dwelling looks like a paradise to a factory size showers like room with the title " WORK LIBERATES" (in German) and lethal gas falling down.

    Palestinians can integrate themselves in Israel and have a good life. Hebrews in Nazi Germany? I consider all the Palestinians' efforts to compare themselves to the victims of Nazi Germany futile. Their adoption of Nazi salutes and wholesale figurisms is of poor taste to say the least. It is sad that once Neo Nazi-ism is eliminated in Europe, that it will remain entrenched in the Palestinian world. It is sad to see an old and respected culture resemble in the least the Most evil that Men have done. It is just sad. It is even sadder that they try to portray Hebrews as evil or even as perpetrators of the Nazi-like crimes, when any one person alive can say exactly who the victims of Nazis where. We all have to hope that a solution to that areas problems are found sooner rather than later.

    Hebrews on the other hand, have a tough time figuring out who is a friend and who just wants to speak nicely so that they will take advantage of their progress and standing in the world. Their greatest enemy so far bore the sign of the cross, and a crusaders' emblem at that, Teutonic knighs. They are very sceptic and cynic. All that is perfectly understandable. All men are going to be tested, that much is true. Life is the test of all. It is one of the universal axioms that true friends are very hard to find.

    I hope that Antisemitism will be gone someday. It has to. It is one of the banes of Humanity, one that we carry along for centuries. It has led to atrocious crimes, including the most atrocious one, the HOLOCAUST. If you try to picture in your mind what those people went through, endless humiliation irrespective of nationality, just because they were Hebrew, not allowed to eat or shop or do business if they didn't bear the sign given to them, branded and numbered like if they were oxen just to be killed in the end like cattle. I can't imagine Hell being all that differrent. Just even worse.

    We have to extinguish Anti-Semitism completely, on all levels it may exist, not just for the Hebrews, but for all the rest of us. Hebrews will benefit, true, but more so will all of us. It will be great to understand for example that if I fail in business or some other venture, I am to blame, not some hidden Jew somewhere in the woodwork. All those dumb conspiracy theories can be put to rest. KOing Anti-Semitism will set all of us free-For real this time. I don't think we stand to lose anything. Maybe just some not so tasteful jokes.
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    Perhaps a good way to extinguish anti-semitism would be to try to create culturally heterogenous states, where no group has the absolute majority? That would surely stop any minority getting picked on. What do you think? May be we should start looking past where we are born and who we are born.
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    Jews have gotten it very good since World War II. They have their own state which was financed by West Germany. They paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over fourteen years (Starting in 1952); 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family. The money was invested in the country's infrastructure and played an important role in establishing the economy of Israel. The reparations would become a decisive part of Israel's income, comprising as high as 87.5% of the state income in 1956. Israel was having financial troubles after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and was facing an economic crisis.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparat...Implementation

    One thing I don't understand is that people like to use what happened to Jews in ancient times while ignoring the fact that similarly terrible things happened to Muslims and Christians. Another thing, any criticism of Jews or remotely denying anything about the Holocaust is a terrible thing and can be punishable by law yet people are pissed that Muslims were angry over the Prophet Muhammad cartoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plebeian View Post
    Another thing, any criticism of Jews or remotely denying anything about the Holocaust is a terrible thing and can be punishable by law yet people are pissed that Muslims were angry over the Prophet Muhammad cartoon.
    Well lets compare the two acts, on one hand you have six million jews being starved, beaten, tortured, experimented on and murdered versus a cartoon being drawn that is "offensive".

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri View Post
    Perhaps a good way to extinguish anti-semitism would be to try to create culturally heterogenous states, where no group has the absolute majority? That would surely stop any minority getting picked on. What do you think? May be we should start looking past where we are born and who we are born.
    i think people need to get over their culture and do whats best for the state!


    culture is merely a silly idea of living how others tell you too. live how you want and get over it. then again im sure some will disagree with me
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    Anti-semitism, much like anti-anything that's based on race, will never go away. It's human nature to love to hate.

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    Holy you're so right, I've spent the last ten minutes beating my head against the wall to get rid of my inner anti0jooness. I might get a priest or something it didn't work.

    Oh yeah, I'm not racist. I think it;s entirely possible to be NOT racist. Bigotry however is another thing altogether, there is always someone's culture or practises we will look down upon even unintentionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    Holy you're so right, I've spent the last ten minutes beating my head against the wall to get rid of my inner anti0jooness. I might get a priest or something it didn't work.

    Oh yeah, I'm not racist. I think it;s entirely possible to be NOT racist. Bigotry however is another thing altogether, there is always someone's culture or practises we will look down upon even unintentionally.
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    I stopped reading when the misspelling of 'jew' became consistent. What'd I miss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    I stopped reading when the misspelling of 'jew' became consistent. What'd I miss?
    Another rant on why racism is bad, and why not hating Jews will benefit the rest of us.

    Considering the fact that I've never hated Jews to begin with, I've to wonder where my benefits are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos View Post
    Another rant on why racism is bad, and why not hating Jews will benefit the rest of us.

    Considering the fact that I've never hated Jews to begin with, I've to wonder where my benefits are.
    Thats awfully anti semitic of you, thanny..what are you, an undercover palestinian?? Hating some evil joos so much that you must cover it up by pretending to be their friend? :hmmm:

    Oh, and for the OP: It would have to be an outright militarily-organized genocide of the greek orthodox, because if that situation, which I swear will never happen as long as I'm alive, does occur, it'd be 1000x worse than the warsaw ghetto uprising. A new word would have to be invented to contain that much raw hatred and disdain for extinction that would be unleashed by the hellenic diaspora from coast to coast. If you thought the riots were bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyrus View Post
    Thats awfully anti semitic of you, thanny..what are you, an undercover palestinian?? Hating some evil joos so much that you must cover it up by pretending to be their friend? :hmmm:

    Oh, and for the OP: It would have to be an outright militarily-organized genocide of the greek orthodox, because if that situation, which I swear will never happen as long as I'm alive, does occur, it'd be 1000x worse than the warsaw ghetto uprising. A new word would have to be invented to contain that much raw hatred and disdain for extinction that would be unleashed by the hellenic diaspora from coast to coast. If you thought the riots were bad...
    I already know: "Madness?! This is SPARTA!!!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volh Vseslavich View Post
    I already know: "Madness?! This is SPARTA!!!!!"
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    As much as I hate racism, you cannot get rid of Antisemitism or racism. Period. It will always be there as long as you got two different races w/ different beliefs interacting with one another. \=


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    Perhaps a good way to extinguish anti-semitism would be to try to create culturally heterogenous states, where no group has the absolute majority? That would surely stop any minority getting picked on. What do you think?
    I've seen lots of people on the internet claim that Jews and their allies are doing this deliberately to Western nations with their "diversity" and "multiculturalism". The goal being to suppress racism until there are so many hostile ethnic groups in the country picking on Jews specifically would be impossible.

    In fact, most racist websites I've seen seem to buy into this mixture of antisemitism and conspiracy theory.

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    Thank you all for your opinion.

    It is painfully obvious that Anti-semitism around the world, has shown its ugly head again. Those of you who don't hate Israelis (Hebrews have a country now, so it is best to call them by their Nationality) good on you. The problem is not just those who do (see on the excrept below) but those who just heard that they are bad people, that they should be blamed for all problems of the Mid-East, just because they are Israeli.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/3782936.cms

    Quote Originally Posted by Times of India
    Israeli security agencies were also busy in the city on Monday; they held discussions with senior police officials. The Israeli agencies are said to have offered assistance in the rescue operations against the terrorists, which, sources said, was turned down by the Indian authorities. After the three-day-long operation ended, a forensic team from Israel, a source said, reached the city to help identify the Israelis killed at Nariman House. Among foreigners slain in the attack, a large number were Israelis — five of them were killed at Nariman House and four others were shot dead at Taj and Oberoi hotels.
    We are in a financial crisis, the full magnitude of which isn't yet known. Last time a major financial crisis like this one erupted, Nazis came to power. You all know what happened next, and it isn't pretty. This is what I am set against. That somehow some Racist sites or KKK or Nazi will try to blame the worlds' financial woes to the Israelis. I say again that Nazi is NOT equal to the German people as a whole.

    Quote Originally Posted by wilpuri
    Perhaps a good way to extinguish anti-semitism would be to try to create culturally heterogenous states, where no group has the absolute majority? That would surely stop any minority getting picked on. What do you think? May be we should start looking past where we are born and who we are born.
    I think that this is going to happen, sooner rather than later, if we take into account the population boom in Africa and the dropping birthrates in Europe and elsewere. What a person does with the life he has is all that should matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Plebeian
    Jews have gotten it very good since World War II. They have their own state which was financed by West Germany. They paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over fourteen years (Starting in 1952); 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family. The money was invested in the country's infrastructure and played an important role in establishing the economy of Israel. The reparations would become a decisive part of Israel's income, comprising as high as 87.5% of the state income in 1956. Israel was having financial troubles after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and was facing an economic crisis.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparat...Implementation

    One thing I don't understand is that people like to use what happened to Jews in ancient times while ignoring the fact that similarly terrible things happened to Muslims and Christians. Another thing, any criticism of Jews or remotely denying anything about the Holocaust is a terrible thing and can be punishable by law yet people are pissed that Muslims were angry over the Prophet Muhammad cartoon.
    Like I have said, nobody should ever have to consider NAZI=Germans. I don't know what appropriate reparation would have been for Israel but I know there is no bringing back those dead Israelis. The whole country of Israel today wouldn't be enough to bury all those wrongfully killed for being Hebrew. Evil is evil, nobody says that all the wrongs comitted against Christians or Muslims should be any less important, but the scale, the enormty and the sheer terror of what happened in the period of Nazi rule is something, I hope we will never see again, ever. If even one of those reading this, understands that Antisemitism is just an excuse for not facing up reality, but blame anything wrong on someone who just didn't do it then it's all worthwhile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos
    Anti-semitism, much like anti-anything that's based on race, will never go away. It's human nature to love to hate.
    I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Attitudes change, even if people are codemned to facing the world as they did when they were young. The president elect of USA is an African-American, a Black. I imagine there is a whole new dimension of hatred in the homes of retired KKK members, but it is the young who matter in this case. They clearly have moved from "Don't care" to "Politics can be good if Politicians are." Those same people who voted for Barrack Obama will be the same who will vote for another Politician who speaks in a calm and rational manner about all problems and all enemies. It can be a Democrat, it can be a Republican. Party doesn't matter, virtue does. The fact that a generation has been lifted from Apathy, took matters into its own hands and really changed the political landscape, is something inspiring. It is also against all the Anti-s you talked about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin
    I stopped reading when the misspelling of 'jew' became consistent. What'd I miss?
    The rest, but it was quite long, I must admit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rome Kb8
    Holy you're so right, I've spent the last ten minutes beating my head against the wall to get rid of my inner anti0jooness. I might get a priest or something it didn't work.

    Oh yeah, I'm not racist. I think it;s entirely possible to be NOT racist. Bigotry however is another thing altogether, there is always someone's culture or practises we will look down upon even unintentionally.
    There is a difference on dislike, "looking down upon", bigotry and hatred. Dislike and Bigotry is something that can be tempered with tolerance and washed away with logic. That is what I think we must all try to do. Blind hatered on the other hand, is exactly what led to Adolph and his NAZI thugs. It happened once. Let's make absolutely, perfectly sure it doesn't happen again. Not Ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thanatos
    Another rant on why racism is bad, and why not hating Jews will benefit the rest of us.

    Considering the fact that I've never hated Jews to begin with, I've to wonder where my benefits are.
    Thanatos, I don't think there is anything here for you, and that is absolutely great, however there are many people out there who are "closet antisemetic". This post and thread is for them, to try to get them to understand why and how this whole Anti-semitism affair came to be, how to get rid of it and mostly how to live one's life based on facts, not "some guy of the street" telling him all his faults are to be blamed on other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by touchmaster
    As much as I hate racism, you cannot get rid of Antisemitism or racism. Period. It will always be there as long as you got two different races w/ different beliefs interacting with one another. \=
    I can't disagree there, but don't we have to try? Is it not better to have fought and lost in this case than not fight at all? Current Presidential election is a clear and present indication that virtue and valor can transcend colour, religion and race.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Brujo
    I've seen lots of people on the internet claim that Jews and their allies are doing this deliberately to Western nations with their "diversity" and "multiculturalism". The goal being to suppress racism until there are so many hostile ethnic groups in the country picking on Jews specifically would be impossible.

    In fact, most racist websites I've seen seem to buy into this mixture of antisemitism and conspiracy theory.
    "Evil jooz" with "diversity" and "Multiculturalism" thrown in for the present Anti-semitic bunch. Sad, really. I agree with you El Brujo. I have heard the exact same arguement from people who are my friends, but who obviously bought into these "theories". I guess Anti-semitism evolves along with the times. One more reason to make people aware it exists and maybe, just maybe, a fellow man can be spared from a life of hatred. Maybe a way to use all that energy into creating something constructive rather than plotting and planning something destructive?

    People must be aware of the current state of affairs. As we fall into what has been dubbed "The first global financial crisis", a lot of people out there will try to blame anything on any one group, Israelis in particular, but also Americans, Rich and who knows whom else. Please, don't let them destroy your mind with hate. This crisis shall pass but your whole view of the world will be distorted forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Brujo View Post
    I've seen lots of people on the internet claim that Jews and their allies are doing this deliberately to Western nations with their "diversity" and "multiculturalism". The goal being to suppress racism until there are so many hostile ethnic groups in the country picking on Jews specifically would be impossible.

    In fact, most racist websites I've seen seem to buy into this mixture of antisemitism and conspiracy theory.
    What we're you doing, reading those sites. Hmm. :hmmm:

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    Well I think we should just force anti-semnites to watch this



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    Hate gone
    Well, that depends on what they are celebrating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakasam View Post
    Well I think we should just force anti-semnites to watch this



    Hate gone, except for the most ignorant and stupid, but they're hardly going to make a difference

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