Civil war stupid senate

[A Demented Goldfish]

Ok i am playing as the julii and when im a roman faction i like to get the civil war started as soon as possible so i pissed of the senate by assasination ect.... and thier army is now outside my capital but they just wont attack to start the civil war but they wont attack and i dont have enough popular support to attack the. I dont get it i am at the lowest popularity wiv dem and i never do thier missions. SO WHY WONT THEY ATTACK

Can anyone help:sparta:

[Sextus Molestus]

I've tried the same thing...I found that what works for me is just playing normally. Expanding really seems to get on their nerves.

[A Demented Goldfish]

I am expanding constantly in to germania and briton

[Sextus Molestus]

To be honest I really don't know what helps cause it, but generally I've noticed as my popularity with the people goes up, my popularity with the Senate goes down. And usually conquering a lot of provinces gets People popularity up.

Now, I realize you've said your popularity with the Senate is all the way down already. To be honest, I've been in the exact same position as the Scipii. I actually resorted to quitting the campaign because my coffers, which previously contained nearly 1 million denarii, were dropping to lower than 100,000 because I had huge armies waiting for the civil war in Italy, which never came. Point of this little anecdote is, if you can stand it, just don't bother with the civil war, it'll come to you eventually.

If you *need* the civil war to happen for some strange reason, you must either wait for a more experienced player's response, or perhaps next campaign play as the SPQR by unlocking it in descr_strat, as you can immediately initiate a civil war and take all of the Italian provinces in the first few turns (on Easy, at least) =)!

[Aldgarkalaughskel]

Can anyone help

Forget dumbass vanilla, pharaoh. Install a mod.
Once you played with a mod you will never ever get back to vanilla.
I promise that.

[Juicemisbruk]

Forget dumbass vanilla, pharaoh. Install a mod.
Once you played with a mod you will never ever get back to vanilla.
I promise that.

I have played tons of mods, amongst them EB, RTR, XGM , VI 2, and with it down-sides i like vanilla much better. The only "fix" i have on my game now is a force diplomacy script so the diplomacy don't get all bizarre on me.

[aznflea]

i like vanilla even though its flawed to . i dont care aboutr historical accuracies or any of that.

you can get an assassin and start assassinating the senate which will proc a civil war. im not sure about this because ive only heard this and havent tried it out myself.

[Scutarii]

The AI will never start the civil war on its own, its impossible. You can be outlawed by a failed assassination on a fellow Roman faction, though, which makes you neutral to the other Romans. The reason the Senate isn't attacking you probably is because they aren't actually at war with you.

[aznflea]

i think its cuz you dont have enough popular support for the civil war yet

[Celsius]

Just make sure you have armies set outside the other Roman Capitals. You won't regret it.

Celsius

[Lord Feloric's Ambassador]

My Lord believes the Roman Senate fears you too much to attack. They know if they start a civil war it will be the end of their petty "Republic."

[Lord Dakier]

I know how to solve your problem, Attack them yourself and kick start the damn thing!

Glad I could help lol.

[Celsius]

I know how to solve your problem, Attack them yourself and kick start the damn thing!

Glad I could help lol.

[Lord Dakier]

Its true none the less lol.

If you want to go to war, start one yourself.

[Lord Dakier]

Wow you prefer Vanilla over XGM and RTR, dude that stuff is like... not possible.

Forget the senate starting war, just do it yourself. But beware of the Gauls and Carthaginians and Iberians and Greeks... as they will try for your land.

[Selifator]

Newest campaign I started was a vanilla Julii campaign. I preferred that over starting a campaign with RS or EB.

[Scutarii]

I haven't played vanilla in over 2 years... And all the better for it.

[Lord Dakier]

Well RS and EB are rather one sided mods I find.

[Selifator]

Why that? EB is very difficult and very heavy but if you want a challenge, big challenge, then it is good. RS looks great, adds many units, bigger map, better map.

[MABUS2012]

i am not the one that usualy starts the cival war the senate usualy wants me to do their biding against the other roman families and after i kick them out of italy i take rome for my self backstabing is fun