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    Default A modern latin, A possible common language for EU?

    Latin is the father of the most European languages and it represents the common cultural identity for many EU countries.
    Why not revive this language with a more modern and easiest version and make it the "Lingua Franca" of EU?

    What do you think?

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    Default Re: A modern latin, A possible common language for EU?

    Why don't just use English as common language??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Why don't just use English as common language??
    English isn't our common cultural identidy, English is the instrument of the America Imperialism, we learn it only by necessity and the "Lingua Franca" will change with the time.

    The Europeans should build their own way instead of follow the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    English isn't our common cultural identidy, English is the instrument of the America Imperialism, we learn it only by necessity and the "Lingua Franca" will change with the time.

    The Europeans should build their own way instead of follow the others.
    See! I told you guys Darsh would never accept that.

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    I'd support German, just for the kicks and obvious taste of irony.
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    European nationalists... ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    English isn't our common cultural identidy,
    You have no common cultural identity.

    English is the instrument of the America Imperialism,
    English... is a language. It's an instrument of communication, not "America Imperialism".

    we learn it only by necessity and the "Lingua Franca" will change with the time.
    You know it.

    It's the most efficient means of communication for you Europeans.

    It's still not efficient.

    Efforts to create a common cultural identity in Europe will fall flat on their face.

    The Europeans should build their own way instead of follow the others.
    I see.

    So naturally you should adopt some long-dead language (in practice) of a long-dead Empire as your official language.

    You know what we Americans should do?

    Adopt some form of Navajo as our official language.

    Sure, it's completely inefficient, but it doesn't "follow the others" (except for... well... the Navajos) and... well... why not?

    Oh yeah...
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    The funny thing is no one today can pronounce Latin correctly.

    So don't make your old ancestors jump out from grave to teach you some "proper" Latin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    English isn't our common cultural identidy, English is the instrument of the America Imperialism, we learn it only by necessity and the "Lingua Franca" will change with the time.
    And Latin has no connotations with Imperialism? Are we indicating we are the new Roman Empire?

    Simply implementing a new language would never work simply because it never has. I get the feeling you just want French as the 'EU language' which as I'm sure you realise would never work.

    There's just too much historical baggage with European languages, even with a modern Latin. Conversely a completely made-up language simply has no gravitas.

    Stick with our own and maybe our future generations will be able to converse in an impressive array of languages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    English isn't our common cultural identidy.
    The Europeans should build their own way instead of follow the others.
    Nore the Roman identity is common of the europeans!
    The last Romans died in 1460 in the Despotatum of Morea (pelloponissos region in present greece)!
    The germanic tribes that conquered west europe have nothing to conect them with the roman past (the last westerns with the roman citizenship died in 460ad!)...
    Francs,Normans or Alamans or Goths have nothing to conect them with the Latin languege exept some false state names like "Holly Roman Empire"!
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    Poor Darsh, his "Franco-Latin" as the common language of EU got bombard as badly as the Western Front during WWI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Poor Darsh, his "Franco-Latin" as the common language of EU got bombard as badly as the Western Front during WWI.
    This is easily understandable!The markets are global but every man on this world is proud of his "ethnic" heritege no matter how pour or rich it may be!Languege is a primary messure to guard this heritege!
    TGC in order to continue its development seak one or more desicated scripters to put our campaign scripts mess to an order plus to create new events and create the finall missing factions recruitment system. In return TGC will give permision to those that will help to use its material stepe by step. The result will be a fully released TGC plus many mods that will benefit TGC's material.
    Despite the mod is dead does not mean that anyone can use its material
    read this to avoid misunderstandings.

    IWTE tool master and world txt one like this, needed inorder to release TGC 1.0 official to help TWC to survive.
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    If it can't be Norwegian (which is an obvious no, even if we join) I'd much rather it be English than Latin.

    Either that, or German because many languages share common words with German like English, Scandinavians etc. Many speaks it too, unlike Latin, which only theologians and doctors speak.

    Or French, spanish, Italian... Or let's just make it English..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    English is the instrument of the America Imperialism,
    sigh...it's not like we MAKE you guys learn it.

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    nah, Spanish is considered the easiest language in the world to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    English isn't our common cultural identidy, English is the instrument of the America Imperialism, we learn it only by necessity and the "Lingua Franca" will change with the time.

    The Europeans should build their own way instead of follow the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    English isn't our common cultural identidy, English is the instrument of the America Imperialism, we learn it only by necessity and the "Lingua Franca" will change with the time.
    Necessity is the reason that it should be the common language. Unless you prefer to learn our chinese text, the 2nd most popular language on earth (or first now? )

    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    The Europeans should build their own way instead of follow the others.
    But they still learn english don't they? Why waste time learning 2 languages? People could spend their life doing other enjoyful things rather than preserving languages of the past which are only connected with them by the places they're born! Those languages should be sealed in museums.

    Language is a tool. You learn and use it when it's comparatively more benefitical than other languages, and dump it when it's not. Your ancestors too learned your language for that benefit, which explains why people born in different places usually just speak the most popular native languages there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsh View Post
    Latin is the father of the most European languages and it represents the common cultural identity for many EU countries.
    Why not revive this language with a more modern and easiest version and make it the "Lingua Franca" of EU?

    What do you think?
    I learned Latin, it was damn hard, it's a LOT easier if they all just used English, seeing as a lot of them do anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakasam View Post
    I learned Latin, it was damn hard, it's a LOT easier if they all just used English, seeing as a lot of them do anyway
    Darsh would never agree that anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Darsh would never agree that anyway...
    Yeah, I guessed that from the French-oriented sig

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    BS, we tried Esperanto, it did not work. I dont even see the language barriers as a problem. Making one official language would only create many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alakasam View Post
    I learned Latin, it was damn hard, it's a LOT easier if they all just used English, seeing as a lot of them do anyway
    Very true.

    Now, if they taught Latin from early childhood, I could get behind that...especially as a global auxiliary language, because it's not a language "owned" or used by any one existing power.

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