how to train units faster

**Falconpilot** · November 29, 2008, 06:22 AM

hi everyone,

I just downloaded and installed this mod and must say congrats to you guys, the units are just awesome! gret job!

But in the campaign I saw that spartan royal guards take 30 turns to train?? any chance to lower this? I know they're elite units but still 30 turns is much a bit to much

greatings and good job!
falcon

**Dom9127** · November 29, 2008, 06:48 AM

Read the wiki........

**Webba** · November 29, 2008, 09:38 AM

Just to emphasis what you'll read in the wiki the Spartan Royal Guards are not an elite unit. They're a unique unit with ridiculous stats. If there was any way in RTW to limit the number of units of them to train you can be sure you'd only ever be allowed one unit of them.

There are many cool units in XGM of which the SRG are only one. I reckon you should give the game a try as it is, they're 30 turns recruitment for very good reasons.

**Falconpilot** · November 29, 2008, 11:01 AM

thx for the answer

**Balikedes** · December 01, 2008, 11:18 AM

You can try out XGM Command, it will set the unit recruitment time to 10 turns at 15000 denarii and give the SRG the command trait. Check it out...just click on XGM Command in my sig. The latest version is on the last page of the thread.
Bal

**Spartan198** · December 01, 2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Balikedes

You can try out XGM Command, it will set the unit recruitment time to 10 turns at 15000 denarii and give the SRG the command trait. Check it out...just click on XGM Command in my sig. The latest version is on the last page of the thread.
Bal

Is it compatible with the newly-released 5.8.4 version of XGM?

**Balikedes** · December 02, 2008, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Is it compatible with the newly-released 5.8.4 version of XGM?

nope, right now it's only good to 5.8.2

...I will have another version out tomorrow though!

**aznflea** · December 03, 2008, 02:52 AM

are you serious?

**Balikedes** · December 03, 2008, 08:53 AM

aznflea and spartan198: Here is a link to the page for the XGM 5.8.4 compatible version. Dime made a few small changes to the EDU that are now captured in XGMCommand584.

XGMCommand584

**Double X** · December 04, 2008, 05:55 PM

I actually recruited a unit of Spartan Royal Guard once...when I realized what a big mistake it was I was already like 10 turns in so I just let keep going...

dumb dumb dumb

--They are a beast though, and I think the Spartn Peorci (sp?) should be stronger, as Athenian and Syracuse are simply less attack and higher defense then the Peorci. Weren't Spartans supposed to be legendary fighters?

Double X

**Scutarii** · December 04, 2008, 06:30 PM

Thats why the SRG are an uber unit. The Perioici (sp?) are the non-Spartiate troops Sparta fielded... So are just slightly better than average hoplites.

**Webba** · December 04, 2008, 10:28 PM

As Scutarii says the Perioici aren't actually Spartans. Fairly sure that's in their unit description

. They are a very cool unit though.

**Double X** · December 05, 2008, 11:25 AM

Still, aren't they trained by the Spartan army and whatnot? They are essentially equal to the Athenian soldiers, where I believe their stats should read more like 13/18 instead of 10/18, because the Athenian/Syracuse men are 8/21. I know they aren't true spartans but they DO come from the lakedonia and would most likely be trained by other spartans...shouldn't that count for something?

Also, in the XGM, Athens and Pergamon both get a super academy unique to their settlement. Perhaps Sparta could get a unique Armorer/Blacksmith that makes the average soldiers out of Sparta better then the average soldiers of say, Thermon? Of course I am useless in the code/technical part of this game, I am only an idealist.

cheers

**Balikedes** · December 05, 2008, 12:08 PM

That actually isn't too bad of an idea...didn't Sparta have the Temple of Artemis Orthia? Maybe they should get a +2 Morale boost or something?

**Webba** · December 05, 2008, 12:13 PM

yeah, a moral boosting temple for sparta wouldn't be out of place at all.

**Double X** · December 05, 2008, 02:44 PM

Awesome

How would the morale boost affect the troops? Less likely to rout?

**Scutarii** · December 05, 2008, 04:04 PM

I'd say an experience bonus would be better. The morale bonus is even said to not work at all (By the EB team, IIRC.) They say it probably only affects troops trained there and who remain in the city, so its fairly useless. An experience bonus of 1 or 2 would be appropriate (a "spartan agoge" special building, or something like that).

**Balikedes** · December 07, 2008, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Scutarii

I'd say an experience bonus would be better. The morale bonus is even said to not work at all (By the EB team, IIRC.) They say it probably only affects troops trained there and who remain in the city, so its fairly useless. An experience bonus of 1 or 2 would be appropriate (a "spartan agoge" special building, or something like that).

yeah man, either way...an experience bonus is also very fitting.