Creating a World – Basic mapping from scratch

[Gigantus]

There was a formatting error in your imp_cam file: the fancy symbol in the first row is missing. Fixed it for you, see attachment.
Use this file and delete the the string.bin counterpart if a new string.bin file is not generated.

The error in the sound file appears to be fixed. Try my attachment and report back.

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[Naomeister]

There was a formatting error in your imp_cam file: the fancy symbol in the first row is missing. Fixed it for you, see attachment.
Use this file and delete the the string.bin counterpart if a new string.bin file is not generated.

The error in the sound file appears to be fixed. Try my attachment and report back.

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Well, it seems the updated imp_cam file has fixed the descr_regions error, thank you a lot! Unfortunately, the descr_sounds_music_types issue is still persisting. It keeps crashing and putting up that error.

[Gigantus]

Post an updated log and your latest descr_sounds_music.

[Naomeister]

Post an updated log and your latest descr_sounds_music.

Here you go. The whole log was too big to attach, so I just included the last 100 lines or so. There weren't any errors prior to that.

[Gigantus]

1. There is no error with the descr_sounds_music_type file - the log simply ends with it opened\processed as the last file.
2. You still have the errors with the rebel factions in descr_regions
3. Big logs need to be compressed. A 13MB log will compress to 600KB. RAR, ZIP and 7z are acceptable formats to be posted here.

I suggest you compress your mod folder (delete map.rwm to save space) and attach it here. I take it you have only modded the map and other text files?

[Naomeister]

1. There is no error with the descr_sounds_music_type file - the log simply ends with it opened\processed as the last file.
2. You still have the errors with the rebel factions in descr_regions
3. Big logs need to be compressed. A 13MB log will compress to 600KB. RAR, ZIP and 7z are acceptable formats to be posted here.

I suggest you compress your mod folder (delete map.rwm to save space) and attach it here. I take it you have only modded the map and other text files?

Here. I'm betting there's probably several things wrong, but I'm not sure what yet.

[Gigantus]

You are right: nothing new in the log. I will check your mod and come back to you.

[Naomeister]

Thanks. I hope you find something.

[Gigantus]

I found plenty:

I copied your files over my "Bare Geomod' installation and then ran it through the debugger of Geomod. Underneath the result. When I saved the mod in Geomod the program froze at 1% which indicates problems with descr_strat. Guess that will be the name thing that crashed it.
Lots of invalid positions as well, this is due to using RGB 0,0,0 in map_heights. This RGB value looks black, but will be generated as water. See the attached pic, I colored the area reddish. This error can be automatically corrected with Geomod, but the freeze prevents it from being saved.
There also appear to be characters without names.

I fixed map_heights but it still crashes. More later

Geomod Log

**************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:05 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Scotius Pietro Belladonna Ferrante'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Stephanie'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Sonny'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Dominik Kovacic'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Mateusz'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Eduard'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Erika'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Gregor'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Sasha'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:08 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Dmitri'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Derek Radloff'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Jason Kalashnikov'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Kamal al_Fulan'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Jamar al_Fulan'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Al-Asad'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Asbarji'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Yelu Chucai'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Wu Lin'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Shigi Khutugh'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Chormaqan'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Tulegu'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Tania'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Tiffany'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Cesar'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Dexter "The Bald"'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Roderick Lawrence Forsythe Williams III'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Feargus Dunbar'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Roderick Lawrence Forsythe Williams III'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Fernand du Champs'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Heinz Schwandorf'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Axel Buchholz'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Freidrich Heinzmal'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Engelbrecht Schuller'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Deiter Kolzhammer'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Emil Herczeg'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:09 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Miska Kedves'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Alyosha Filipov'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Evgeny Kuznetsov'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Savas Kelebek'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Juan de Costa'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Inigo Montoya'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Mosi Zuwena'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Nwabudike Xobile'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Kitwana Kicham'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Hamadi Panya'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Faraji Zahun'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Fabio Almeida'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Modesto Palmiro'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Adriano Artur'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Odhiambo Sekai'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Thulani Wekesa'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Gustavo Teodoro'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Andile Dumisani'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Abd al Hamid'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Ghadir Habib'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Tinan Hamza'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Inigo Montoya'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Hadi al_Fulan'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Franz'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Klaus Neumann'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Elliott Thatcher'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:10 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Ashley'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:11 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Jeremy Hannaford'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:11 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Spencer de Melin'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:11 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Jaqueline'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:11 Impossible to associate a first name to the character 'Lewis'! **************************************************************************************************** Error, Geomod v0.6.18 2010-09-20 10:33:16 1. The errors in altitude were corrected. 2. One or more invalid positions detected: City of region Winchestershire_Province City of region Williamshire_Province City of region Lucetia_Province City of region Oberwessel_Province City of region Adalatskie_Province Port of region Kolonowskie_Province Port of region Zalania_Province City of region Basznitolna_Province Port of region Tisza_Province City of region Al_Mahawil_Province Port of region Al_Mahawil_Province City of region Ceuta_Province City of region Bougama_Province City of region Mbaiki_Tribelands City of region Parada_Province City of region Lerato_Province Character Domenico Selvo (98, 96) Character Cristiano Selvo (112, 106) Character Tusco Delogu (105, 94) Character Oliverio Gusti (101, 103) Character Paolo Nesti (90, 103) Character Lorenzo (89, 85) Character (125, 115) Character Emilio Bossi (101, 111) Character Adelmo Galli (90, 122) Character Vico Deganello (112, 133) Character Simon (124, 140) Character Rino Benoldi (135, 145) Character Sicco (98, 140) Character Niccolo Amocacci (114, 142) Character Matilda (123, 135) Character Heinrich (137, 42) Character Dietrich (138, 29) Character Konrad (192, 81) Character Agnes (192, 86) Character László (191, 95) Character (202, 99) Character Baltasar Jakab (196, 92) Character István (177, 94) Character Ulászló (207, 99) Character (191, 91) Character (181, 115) Character (176, 115) Character (185, 113) Character (198, 118) Character Jalal (143, 167) Character Sundak al Hasan (130, 195) Character Kilij Murat (113, 183) Character Baraka (142, 172) Character Mubarak (148, 230) Character (180, 228) Character (198, 228) Character Alfonso (8, 160) Character (28, 112) Character Martio (50, 145) Character Meen (90, 145) Character Miswar (112, 188) Character Qasim (112, 213) Character Shakir Al-Fayyoumi (125, 205) Character Fakhir (105, 198) Character (14, 96) Character (45, 48) Character (57, 20) Character Ian (61, 32) Character Randall (90, 63) Character Jean (67, 118) Character Louis (83, 133) Character (171, 16) Character (179, 35) Character (176, 47) Character Paul (155, 65) Character (163, 88) Character (173, 94) Character Omar (208, 206) Character Enrique (7, 175) Character Ricardo Martín (36, 175) Character (14, 193) Character Sancho (11, 214) Character (25, 245) Character (114, 237) Character (155, 245) Character (130, 199) Character Françisco (12, 174) Character Enrique (28, 162) Character (8, 171) Character Rainald Erlach (174, 16) Character Giles (32, 76) Character (43, 45) Character Fearghus Campbell (64, 32) Character Donald Macconel (87, 14) Character Philip (29, 107) Character (38, 94) Character François (38, 119) Character Étienne Tristram (42, 116) Character Aubert Fébre (50, 100) Character (41, 119) 3. No multiple resources detected.

[Naomeister]

Ahh, okay. I can understand that issue...I've replaced all the lower areas with RGB 1,1,1 instead, so hopefully that's okay.

As for the names, is there another reference file like the imperial_campaign_regions_and_settlement_names.txt that I'm missing?

[Gigantus]

- Region names are ok
- but some regions are missing the creator entry, some regions are not entered in descr_strat, one wasn't entered in descr_sounds_music_type
- lots of character names have no entry in descr_names and\or text\names
- the english family tree has five children (4 is hard coded max)

Despite fixing all those erros Geomod still froze.

Summary: it appears you never tested while you were modding. The errors are too numerous and too time consuming to be fixed by me. But I will give it one last try by removing all character entries in the descr_strat except for a faction leader each (no rebel armies.

[Naomeister]

- Region names are ok
- but some regions are missing the creator entry, some regions are not entered in descr_strat, one wasn't entered in descr_sounds_music_type
- lots of character names have no entry in descr_names and\or text\names
- the english family tree has five children (4 is hard coded max)

Despite fixing all those erros Geomod still froze.

Summary: it appears you never tested while you were modding. The errors are too numerous and too time consuming to be fixed by me. But I will give it one last try by removing all character entries in the descr_strat except for a faction leader each (no rebel armies.

Well, I did actually test it out, but I'm assuming in the wrong way. I tested out with a very basic version (About the level of the tutorial you put up.) and then tried expanding upon it from there. I'll admit I didn't test in between, mostly because I didn't think it would run without having them names in all files that I was making first.

Sorry for all the trouble. I thought most of these were due to one or two root causes, but I guess not. Let me know if you get it working and I'll try to work onward from there.

[Gigantus]

- Error with RGB value on the southern border of Servida_Province
- Duplicate RGB value for Efaro_province and error with RGB value on the eastern border
- Your rivers in map_features have the RGB values for spring and crossing mixed up.

Fixed all that and it still crashes - I give up. You simply did the cardinal sin of not frequently testing your work. That way you would have been able to trace what went wrong. I am reducing your work to the minimum to get it to work.

Start all over again:
A. install Bare Geomod
B. copy your data folder into it
C. install the Geomod tool
D. download the manual for it

1. Fix the map_features issue
2. delete all regions except one (use Geomod)
3. disable all factions except two
4. delete all characters except leaders for those factions

I did points A, B, 2, 3 and 4 for you. While doing point 2 I discovered at least 7 areas in the descr_regions file that had RGB values that were not in the descr_regions file. This is a result of carelessness, is difficult to find and always creates a crash.
Extract the files into the mods folder and create a shortcut to the bat file for your desktop.
And then start to proceed like this:

- make backup
- start with 10 regions and two factions (one leader only)
- testing
- make backup if there are no problems
- add regions without buildings
- testing every five regions
- make backup if there are no problems

[Naomeister]

Alright. Apologies for taking up your time, and thank you for the work you've done.

[Gigantus]

You are welcome, hope you will be able to take it from here. (We all started like this, even me)
For questions regarding the Geomod tool, please post in that thread.

[Derpy Hooves]

concerning descr_regions, I hope this is the correct way to do it
Dachar
Vaastrada
denmark
Norse_Rebels
120 0 100
none
5
5
religions { catholic 69 orthodox 31 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 0 }
Volokbaai
Redexea
scotland
Norse_Rebels
75 229 86
none
5
5
religions { catholic 50 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 0 }

Also in which tutorial do you go over resources?

[Gigantus]

Placement of resources in Geomod: "Resources Sub Tab", Page 14

[Derpy Hooves]

is the above the way to do regions for descr_regions?

[Gigantus]

religions { catholic 50 orthodox 0 islam 0 pagan 0 heretic 0 }

The numbers have to total 100 (PLEASE read this tutorial: Creating a World – Adding detailed Regions), questions regarding entries in descr_regions please post there.

[Derpy Hooves]

The numbers have to total 100 (PLEASE read this tutorial: Creating a World – Adding detailed Regions), questions regarding entries in descr_regions please post there.

That part was an accident, my question was more towards the
5
5
that is the part i was more concerned about. Thank you for pointing that out it will be changed. Hopefully in the near future you will see this in the mods forum under the name Wars of Duchara.