Creating a World – Basic mapping from scratch

**SSJPabs** · April 10, 2009, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by gigantus

@SSJPabs

You are definitely running the retrofit mod. Check the bat file in the mymapping folder (right click\edit) for the path.

That's what I thought as well but the splash page does not say "Retrofit Mod" on it.

The bat in the MyMapping folder is:

@echo off
cd ..\..
kingdoms.exe @mods\myMapping\Configuration.cfg

I even created a bat in the regular m2 folder:
kingdoms.exe --features.mod=mods/myMapping --io.file_first

But same problem.

The MyMapping folder is in data/mods/MyMapping and the Retrofit folder is in data/mods/Retrofit. If you could suggest the appropriate path I'd appreciate it.

**Gigantus** · April 10, 2009, 11:51 AM

Then remains only the entry in the configuration file to be wrong:

[features]
mod = mods/mymapping

No sense for the bat file to point to this file if this file points to retrofit instead of mymapping.

**SSJPabs** · April 10, 2009, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by gigantus

Then remains only the entry in the configuration file to be wrong:

[features]
mod = mods/mymapping

No sense for the bat file to point to this file if this file points to retrofit instead of mymapping.

Then we have a problem because that's what the configuration file looks like. I think I'll go back through your tutorial from the beginning and try again. Thanks.

ED: Problem 1: even though I use a color of 1, 1, 1 when making map_heights and try to fill it with 0,0,0 it just covers the 1,1,1 so I lack a tiny border. Using photoshop, btw.

**Gigantus** · April 10, 2009, 08:58 PM

ED: Problem 1: even though I use a color of 1, 1, 1 when making map_heights and try to fill it with 0,0,0 it just covers the 1,1,1 so I lack a tiny border. Using photoshop, btw.

What exactly are you trying to do? Zero will give you a water surface.

**SSJPabs** · April 11, 2009, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by gigantus

What exactly are you trying to do? Zero will give you a water surface.

Right sorry. I was mixing up my Map_Heights and my Map_ground_types.

Anyhow, I just get the odd error ( 22:21:51.390 [system.rpt] [error] ) that is an unspecified one when I try to start the campaign. No map.rwm is created. Map_Heights has a standard height of 18, 18, 18 with a shoreline of 1,1,1 and water of 0,0,253. Map_Ground_types has land of 0,0,0 and water of 196, 0, 0. I just get the same notification of an unknown error in the log. I can send you the files if you like--the image isn't Iceland, since I never got any pictures of iceland in either the Bare_Kingdoms files or the tutorial and I can't get the links in it to work.

Screenies of the error and my base folder.

Thanks for taking the time to help me.

**Gigantus** · April 11, 2009, 03:27 AM

A crash like this usually indicates an error in the map_features file. Have a look in the chapter "More Features", page 5.

Did you check the log? It is in medieval2\logs, not the one in the root directory.

**SSJPabs** · April 11, 2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by gigantus

A crash like this usually indicates an error in the map_features file. Have a look in the chapter "More Features", page 5.

Did you check the log? It is in medieval2\logs, not the one in the root directory.

Nothing.

My map_features page is a single blank square of 0, 0, 0. I have "lakes" and a river as it were, but I didn't want to put them in as features to avoid headaches, and so I thought they'd be classed as "sea." Is that incorrect? The other map_features files (from M2 and various mods) never show oceans so I thought it was okay.

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**Gigantus** · April 11, 2009, 12:31 PM

Other possibilities are the descr_strat file, but I guess you didn't change anything in there.
More crash stuff: if the pixel of the port or settlement touches the border of a neighboring region, if the color of the descr_regions doesn't match the map_regions, if the count of the religions in descr_regions is not exactly 100.
Things that do not cause a crash: wrong colors in map files other then map_regions or map_features - that's the pink spots you can see sometimes.

At the moment it is difficult to say where the mistake is. Do some hunting in the files I mentioned. What is th esize of your map by the way, looks like a huge map!

**SSJPabs** · April 11, 2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by gigantus

Other possibilities are the descr_strat file, but I guess you didn't change anything in there.
More crash stuff: if the pixel of the port or settlement touches the border of a neighboring region, if the color of the descr_regions doesn't match the map_regions, if the count of the religions in descr_regions is not exactly 100.
Things that do not cause a crash: wrong colors in map files other then map_regions or map_features - that's the pink spots you can see sometimes.

At the moment it is difficult to say where the mistake is. Do some hunting in the files I mentioned. What is the size of your map by the way, looks like a huge map!

I think I have spotted the problem. The edges of map_regions are all fuzzy, instead of solid. This happened when I shrank down the map from 451x501 to 225x250. Got it. Thanks to you I figured out how to index it right in photoshop.

It doesn't quite look perfect but it's a start! Hmm, got adjust the mini-map and figure out the various appropriate sizes for the map files. Thank you for your help.

ED: In trying to recreate the thing I am running into the original problem, it seems to be trying loading Retrofit in the system log, but nothing is amiss in the trace error log. This is just too hard for me it seems.

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**Gigantus** · April 11, 2009, 10:19 PM

ED: In trying to recreate the thing I am running into the original problem, it seems to be trying loading Retrofit in the system log, but nothing is amiss in the trace error log. This is just too hard for me it seems.

You could try to rename the mymodding folder and then change the entries in the cfg and bat file accordingly. Did you make a shortcut on the desktop? If so check it's properties (path).

**SSJPabs** · April 12, 2009, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by gigantus

You could try to rename the mymodding folder and then change the entries in the cfg and bat file accordingly. Did you make a shortcut on the desktop? If so check it's properties (path).

Not much time to talk but I figured out what was going wrong. Map_fog was still indexed, so once I changed it to RGB it worked just fine.

**Hargrimm** · May 21, 2009, 10:19 PM

Can you have islands a part of a region? I have the same crash as SSJPabs, right at faction select, and I can't find out what's wrong. The only thing I can think of now is that I have a couple of islands, which I included with the green region. Will this work?

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**Gigantus** · May 22, 2009, 08:34 AM

It looks as if you simply don't have enough regions for the size of your map.

Did you have the map working before?

**Hargrimm** · May 22, 2009, 10:24 AM

No, this is is first map I've ever done. I've just been following this tutorial to make it, and it never worked. I had no idea there was a maximum region size. How many do you think I need? Also, what do the numbers (on their own lines) in the regions text file mean?

**Gigantus** · May 22, 2009, 12:41 PM

The bigger the map the higher the minimum amount of regions for the map to work properly. Come to think of it, in that case it would crash once you start moving around on it. No idea why the tutorial didn't work for you, but here is another tutorial of mine to explain all the stuff in the map_regions file

**Hargrimm** · May 22, 2009, 03:17 PM

Is there any way you could post your working results from this tutorial? That was I could see if the error is from something I did during the mapping or if it has to do with my base M2 installation. I did have Retrofit mod installed, which I've heard can cause problems, but I ran the unpacker again and overwrote all the files, so it shouldn't still cause problems, should it?

**Gigantus** · May 22, 2009, 09:34 PM

I haven't got working result anymore. But then it is very basic (hence the name) and should not create any problem if you follow those instructions. And one of them is to create your own mod folder. Retrofit shouldn't have caused any problems unless it gets installed into the root\default directory of the game.
A crash at faction selection could mean a number of things - difficult to say unless I could have a look t the files. It could be a type in descr_strat, wrong RGB code in map_regions, mistake in map_regions...
If you upload your world folder (without map.rwm) and descr_sm_factions, then I could have a quick look at it.

**Hargrimm** · May 22, 2009, 09:46 PM

Thanks so much for the quick replies! Attached is my world folder.

**Gigantus** · May 23, 2009, 01:09 AM

I had a look at it. Everything seems in order. I added more regions and checked every file. No idea what causes the crash. I have only once come across a case like this and that got solved by redoing the graphic files as they had a weird format. There was an unusual entry in the descr_terrain file:
min_sea_height -3406.782
The value was different but that didn't change anything.

**Hargrimm** · May 23, 2009, 10:14 AM

Hmmm, very strange. I guess the only thing left to do I follow these instruction exactly, even though I don't need a map of Iceland. I'm probably doing something wrong in Photoshop; I'm not very familiar with it.

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